Toro Grandstand MultiForce

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Mark Oomkes, Sep 22, 2016.

  1. John_DeereGreen

    John_DeereGreen PlowSite Fanatic
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    12500 for blade and machine on the SSV. Not sure on the liquid setup.
     
  2. framer1901

    framer1901 PlowSite.com Addict
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    That's bunches less than what I thought.......
     
  3. John_DeereGreen

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    That's retail prices too. I bet you could be out the door for 13 depending on th cost of the liquid setup.
     
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    Mark Oomkes

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    Grandstand wheel weights.jpg
    I realized I never posted pics of my Grandstand with Boss plow.

    Apparently there were some complaints aboot lack of traction...not just me. They came oot with a wheel weight kit, we'll see how it works.

    Grandstand plow.jpg

    Sorry aboot the quality, the protective glass\plastic over my camera is scratched pretty bad.
     
  5. John_DeereGreen

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    Is that electric over hydraulic or full hydraulic controlled?
     
  6. Defcon 5

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    Wouldn't need the wheel weights if Buffy was running it.....:drinkup:
     
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  7. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 PlowSite Fanatic
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    Btw....Could use a "Few" more Jagoof lights
     
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    Mark Oomkes

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    Understood...
     
  9. BUFF

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    I was thinking with Oo's Ego would be enough.....
     
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    Mark Oomkes

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    Update...wheel weights don't really help.

    And FWIW, I am pretty sure that @Aerospace Eng assessment of the plow being too far from the drive wheels is correct. This machine will be moved to backup status at best next season. Maybe...but it won't be a front line unit.
     
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2018
  11. tpendagast

    tpendagast Senior Member
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    Dumb question
    You don’t think tire chains would help
    Or would they just fugger up the concrete?
     
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    Mark Oomkes

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    I'm sure they would help...AND screw up the concrete.
     
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  13. bullit340

    bullit340 Member
    from Mass
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    Has anyone had any updated good luck with this machine and the traction issues?
    Are the tire chains any better?
    Possibly screw in studs in the tires?

    What tire pressures are you guys running in the snow tires?
     
  14. tpendagast

    tpendagast Senior Member
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    You can you tube it

    There’s all sorts of videos from people who think they’re great
    Not sure what the difference in conditions is
    But I suspect all the videos had ample room to windrow off the snow and it didn’t seem especially wet or heavy
    Where as (perhaps) in marks case he had isolated walks that have a berm on both sides and with some wet/heavy snow and nowhere for it to curl off the machine gets bogged down/looses traction.

    I think it all depends on your application
     
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  15. Klaibs27

    Klaibs27 Junior Member
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    Hey Mark, I'm looking at some equipment that I can use year round as I need to get the best ROI I can on what I buy. Have you given up on the Grandstand or have you/your guys learned its limitations and do the best they can with it? I mainly do SMALL residential stuff and have been using snowblowers and shovels to get the job done but would like something with more speed.
     
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    Mark Oomkes

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    It was 4 seasons old so we sold it late summer. Plow never went on last year because we bought an SSV.

    I'd buy one to mow with, not to plow or vacuum with.
     
  17. jonniesmooth

    jonniesmooth PlowSite.com Addict
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    Hopefully we can demo one of these this winter. Screenshot_20191109-075812_Facebook.jpg Screenshot_20191109-075829_Facebook.jpg Screenshot_20191109-075900_Facebook.jpg
     
  18. Green mentorship

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    That's from the guy who started and sold ground logic spreaders. Those sprayers wouldn't hold up past 250 hrs. They're a toy compared to steel green or even z spray. I would not be an early buyer of that plow thing. I'm sure there are COUNTLESS kinks to work out.
     
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    Mark Oomkes

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    If you want a decent ROI, and you have a Steel Green or Zspray, get a Zplow.

    IMO, a multi season machine is good at a lot of things but excels at none.
     
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  20. Ajlawn1

    Ajlawn1 PlowSite Fanatic
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    What??? They don't excel at fert and squirt...?