[Defcon 5]

They don't.

A Ventrac does....:waving:

 

[BUFF]

A Ventrac does....:waving:

And there it is.....

 

[Mark Oomkes]

So our local Toro\Boss dealer fabbed up a V plow on a Grandstand. Kinda pissed I didn't try\axe for this. I still might.

I haven't seen it in person, only pics so far.

 

[Defcon 5]

So our local Toro\Boss dealer fabbed up a V plow on a Grandstand. Kinda pissed I didn't try\axe for this. I still might.

I haven't seen it in person, only pics so far.

Better ask the wife first..

 

[BUFF]

So our local Toro\Boss dealer fabbed up a V plow on a Grandstand. Kinda pissed I didn't try\axe for this. I still might.

I haven't seen it in person, only pics so far.

Sounds like a game changer....

 

[Mark Oomkes]

Sounds like a game changer....

Snow and ice is not a game, let's keep it on topic fella.

 

[SnoFarmer]

it kind of is.
http://www.gamestop.com/wii/games/winter-blast-snow-and-ice-games/77611

 

[BUFF]

Snow and ice is not a game, let's keep it on topic fella.

You're correct however you're wrong in the use of 'Game Changer" in my post:

So a Grandstand with a V blade wood be a game changer.

BTW it's "Old Fella"...............

 

[framer1901]

Curious as to what the thing looks like in two years. Our Z just had so many problems related to corrosion and abuse of snow plowing. Of course we probably didn't clean it off perfectly every night either.

One nightly issue we had was starting it when cold, even new battery, just not enough guts when it was cold......

 

[42930]

I bought my 24hp grandstand in 2008. When it needed a new battery I replaced the old one with one with 230 CCA.
Much better turning over.

 

[Aerospace Eng]

Ether might help. My snorkel lift is hard to start due to my tuning it lean to reduce CO. 1.6 liter Toyota engine.

I've given up on the all on or off choke. I just give it a healthy dose (4 sec or so) of ether and start without choke. By the time the ether is gone the engine just keeps chugging along.

 

[STARSHIP]

So our local Toro\Boss dealer fabbed up a V plow on a Grandstand. Kinda pissed I didn't try\axe for this. I still might.

I haven't seen it in person, only pics so far.

We are about to pull the trigger on this machine, and leaning towards the v-plow verses the straight plow. Any further thoughts about this machine from you or the masses? A Z-spray with plow is also an alternative, but we are leaning towards the Grandstand. This would also be our first Toro in quite a while.

 

[framer1901]

Mark - how has yours lasted with really just over a years worth of plowing? They gave me a today only price, then came back with a good for the month price 2k cheaper...

Bought a Snowrator, the wheels and plow are mild steel, everything else seems to be stainless, trying to get away from towing the RTV around, gonna see if we can make a carry all type thing for it.

 

[Mark Oomkes]

Honestly, I wouldn't do it again. At least not after seeing the Ventrac SSV.

Supposedly they have a wheel weight kit for them to help with traction, which is the biggest issue. I would definitely NOT get a straight blade. As long as you can maintain traction, it works OK. Kind of suffers from the same issue the ZPlow does...doesn't go fast enough to "roll" snow over higher banks. I was considering the blower, but it still hasn't been released.

I can see the V blade working better. I think.

And I must say I am thoroughly underwhelmed by Boss' ATV plow. I really thought it would be heavier duty than every other ATV plow oot there, it isn't.

I'm really kind of hung up on something that can plow\sweep and apply liquids or granular all in one pass. And has enough nuts to push through heavier snow. Even if it does cost more and is a 1 season piece of equipment. Efficiency and doing a good job without having to push oof to the side every 20 feet is worth it to me.

Sorry I can't give a better review.

 

[framer1901]

Skeeerd of the Ventrac price, probably shoulda went and looked at them though.

Time will tell - most of our walks are pushed into parking lots and plowed away although there is some that needs rolled. The spreader option is 1700+, comes with 20 gallon tank but that won't go very far plus we're newbies at that...

 

[STARSHIP]

I appreciate the honest feedback and review, Mark. Like what framer mentioned in his scenario, most of our walks will get rolled into the lot and carried away by the truck/loader. 75% of the places this would be used at also do not require salting, so the lack of capability of the Grandstand right now isn't as much of an issue. I do like that part of the Z-sprays ability, but it sounds like there still isn't something that totally hits a home run. And all of the current options carry a pretty steep price.

 

[John_DeereGreen]

If you can use the granstand in the summer then by all means consider buying it. But for anyone looking at a snowrator for snow, you need to look at the ventrac. I'd never buy a snowrator even being 25% cheaper than the SSV. Far too limited and not built anywhere near as well as the ventrac is.

 

[snowman55]

25%?

I was quoted 100% more than a snowrator.

 

[John_DeereGreen]

25%?

I was quoted 100% more than a snowrator.

For what attachments?

 

[framer1901]

What's a SSV with the plow cost? What's the 20 gallon add on liquid tank cost?

After tax, I paid 9800 for the snowrator - comes with a plow and 20 gallon liquid tank. Another 20 gallon tank was 450ish, the 175# salt spreader was 1700ish - didn't buy either.

The Groundmaster quote was 15k with the plow setup. They dropped it to 13k if I bought three....... I would have bought it had they had the other options available - it's been out two years and a big company that Toro is still hasn't come out with the blower. Somethings fishy there, why not have all the options available after two years?

That SSV is absolutely way more machine with the options, I cringed at the 10k and figured the SSV was 15k plus attachments so never took the drive to look.....

I think they're all good, just depends on what you need and how you want to work.