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Best Equipment for HUGE snow

8.2K views 29 replies 15 participants last post by  yardsmith  
#1 ·
This has nothing to do with plowing buisness, but my personal plowing for my private road. What equipment do you guys recommend for a private 1 1/2 mile single lane gravel/dirt road on the middle of the high elevation area of new york called the tug hill. This place can get up to 600 inches in a single season and can get up to 7 feet in 24 hours. I'm moving to this area and am going to decide if its feasible to be able to take care of my private road. I have a lifted 4wd vehcile than can get through about 3 feet of snow so I don't need the road cleared of snow down to the gravel. Also, the machine can't be to big because its a fairly narrow road that cuts through a forest. Its preety much a logging road.

Thanks ahead.
 
#3 ·
Mike,

I know what you are talking about i live just north of you about an hour.we go to tug hill on the sleds alot.Ithink your best bet is to got a v plow it will slice right though the snow in the v posession. what make and size truck do you have. A v should only be mounted on a 3/4 ton or larger
 
#4 ·
A 1 ton with a v plow will be able to handle these type of conditions??:(I'm just making sure you understand what the conditions are like)
The drifts can get up to 25 feet alongside the road during the harshest winters. You'd have to knock all that snow down. A 1 ton wouldn't move an inch in a 25 foot drift.
Am I wrong?
This is some serious stuff here.
Plus, you have to be able to move the snow on top of each other so its possible to have drifts 50 feet high during the 'harshest of the harsh' winter. Also, snow on the tug tends to fall at HUGE AMOUNTS at one time, which makes plowing 6 feet of freshly fallen possibly wet snow for 1 and 1/2 miles hard.
This is what a guy said who lived there. He couldn't cover 800 feet(just his driveway) with a 3/4 ton with chains, forget 1 and 1/2 miles(HE DIDN'T HAVE A V PLOW THOUGH). I was thinking of some kind of heavy machinery like a agricultural tractor with a huge plow or something else???
If a 1 or 3/4 ton can do it, FANTASTIC!
Thanks ahead.

Also, obviously since this is a private road, I can take any type of equipment on it.
 
#5 ·
I feel like I just stepped through the looking glass....

Where am I, Alice ??

Sounds like an Oshkosh 6 wheel drive truck might be the ticket. You can pick them up at municipal auctions for chump change in the spring as most people don't know what it is and what it will do. Oshkosh has parts for anything they ever built too.

I know a fellow south of Chicago that has a major league snowblower for sale that mounts on a truck (if he still has it). It's huge, although I don't know particulars. He might just deliver it to you too. Good guy. Honest person and won't sell you junk. If you're interested, email me off forum and I'll give you his name and phone number.

600 inches..... my God, why would you intentionally move to such an area ??
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the info.
Why would I move there?, I'm a SNOW NUT!
I wish it was 2000 inches.
Anyway, I was just finding out what I needed because I'm deciding whether or not to buy land that has a 1 mile private drive. I wouldn't be ready to buy that snow blower right now, I'm buying the land this spring, building a home, then next spring buying a farm about 20 miles away from there and then moving in to my home I had built last spring and then I will need the equipment to plow the road.

I don't want to buy the land and then find out I need a $50,000 truck to clear my road!

Just for info, how much does that truck usually run?
 
#8 ·
Farm tractor with rear snow blower would work fine for this, that is what they use here in Iowa for long drives.
 
#9 ·
I think you are going to have to plow every 6-8" with a pickup or 1 ton truck,and hire out a blower or big truck to blow back the banks twice a month or so.Maybe a big 2-3 yd loader would do a good job,and allow you to let it build up if you had to and still be able to handle it.To blow back banks a 3ph snowblower would work well,and they arent to expensive,but driving in reverse for 3 miles wouldnt be fun or good on the neck.As for anything being cheap,even if you get an old cheap truck,when it breaks,it will be $$$$ or youll have to get rid of it and buy another.If you go that way,you need to know how to do your own work on most stuff.
 
#13 ·
Or lease a backhoe from heartz. Case 580 4X4, 300 a week, i bet you could rent one for the whole winter for a good rate.

Then just buy a blade for it, a used highway plow would work, and your set. You got a good dependable backhoe, if it breaks they bring you another one. You don't have to worry about pushing back banks because the case will do it.

Geoff
 
#19 ·
Mike hows it going we've missed you,how the fuel prices affecting that daily commute?
 
#21 ·
"Actually the place really exists and boasts 200" - 300" of snow per year with a record breaking 466" in '77. I would go with the D-6."

Its very confusing about that record. The record was taken in a town called copenhagen
That record 466 was measured in a place thats NOT on the tug. I have the tug hill climate on my site at geocities.com/tughillweather/climate.html.
They've only been talking co-op observations for montague(town that is acutally on the tug in direct line of the lake effect compared to boonville which only averages 225) for a couple of years, they recently measured 414. The first year they had a co-op weather station, they almost broke a world record 24 hour snowfall with 77 inches in 24 hours and a newe york state record of 95 inches in one storm!. Montague averages about 330 inches and therefore record snowfall in a 50 year climatic period would easily hit 600 inches.

Thanks for the pic chuck.
For the idiots mocking me:
This is a serious thread, check out tughillregion.com.
As for the kentworth, I sold it.
I got a brand new Freightliner century class sst, its gorgeus and much safer, it has air bags and everything. I deliver newspapers with it and use it as a daily driver, why get a second vehicle to pick up grocerys?

[Edited by Mike_Smith on 12-01-2000 at 04:39 AM]
 
#23 ·
Me too. Because anybody that would consider the guys posting on this thread "idiots" might be in need of some self reflection. After reading posts by, meeting in person, corresponding via E-mail, & talking by phone with these guys, the last descriptive word that comes to mind for any of them is idiot.
 
#24 ·
Running a good snowplowing buisness doesn't neccesarily mean their good people or smart at anything besides running their buisness. They can have no common sense, yet be smart when it comes to buisness. They can also be jerks when someone asks a simple question. If you don't like the question, don't answer. The longer time you spend in usenet and message boards, the quicker you'll learn this.
 
#26 ·
Consider yourself "Told"!

Mike, from all indications you have nothing better to do than waste time and bandwidth online. From the very first you have brought up subjects that literally scream "BOZO!" While you may think you are making serious posts the rest of us see you as either just being a nuisance or being dumb as a box of rocks. By the way, do those 50' drifts melt or do they just glaciate and slip slowly into the nearest watershed?