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Who here is seasonal pay?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by sk187, Jan 25, 2008.

  1. sk187

    sk187 Senior Member
    Messages: 338

    Just wondering how common a seasonal price is. We are plowing a 2million +sq ft. mall and gave them prices every way and they decided on seasonal.

    Most posts I see here are a per push / per inch type of pay scale.
  2. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,194

    All of our stuff is seasonal (plowing and salting included), except one 1500 parking spot mall and a 7 acre commercial site which are seasonal for plowing and salt is extra. Seasonal is the way to go, as long as you know how to price things. The law of averages generally helps you out, in the long run.
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2008
  3. Burkartsplow

    Burkartsplow PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,246

    A few seasonals and a few per push. It works out in the end for everyone. It is nice not doing much in december and april and getting paid for it.
  4. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    All seasonal here for me. I base my price on 25 plows as a seasonal price then bill 5 times for the season.
  5. B&E snowplowing

    B&E snowplowing Senior Member
    Messages: 159

    Seasonal Price

    EVERYTHING I do is seasonal, and it works out great for me the only thing I charge extra for is salt application, which is billed seperatly each month.
  6. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 28,362

    I'm 95% seasonal. The 3 accounts I have per push are enough to cover the operating expenses for the plowing each event for 3 trucks.

    I bill out from November through April, 6 equal payments, all commercial.

    It's nice because you can budget new equipment, or budget a bankroll to keep non-new equipment running.

    The house payment / taxes are covered, the kids are fed, and MOST importantly, the wife is happy.
  7. sk187

    sk187 Senior Member
    Messages: 338

    We are Nov 1 - March 31 5 equal payments salt included.

    Didnt plow at all in Nov., December was mild but getting hit pretty good in Jan.

    Thanks for all the replies thus far.
  8. rjfetz1

    rjfetz1 Senior Member
    from CT.
    Messages: 640

    All seasonal
  9. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    We are a per push only. We have had 14 billable plows this year so far. Dec and Jan.
    Done it this way for over 25 years.
  10. plowman4life

    plowman4life Senior Member
    Messages: 557

    out of all our resis 25 are seasonal. they pay us by the first snow storm for the year. 95% of our commercial accounts are seasonal. its the way to go. everything else is per push. all the seasonal one are pre figured with salt and/or sand.
  11. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,257

    Seasonal is great. Easy to budget. You have to be disciplined with your money and you need a multi year contract.
  12. cod8825

    cod8825 Member
    Messages: 91

    I like how everybody posting here in this thread is north of the border or are close enough they can throw a rock across it.

    Kansas City might see some more after this season 9 billable events so far.
  13. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    All per push...
    1" to 2" trigers.
    salt extra.
    no shoveling.
  14. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 28,362

    Here about 30 miles north of St. Paul, I've only got 8 billable events so far, all in December, and most are because of multiple times in one day.
  15. heather lawn spray

    heather lawn spray PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,206


    have you been looking in my computer again:jester:

    RBRONKEMA GHTFD 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,592

    What are you gonna do if we get hit in april again like last year with 6 inches of wet slop? Charge per push, or charge them a whole month installment? I always run my contracts 6 months. I am just wondering? I tried to get seasonal accounts this year but nobody wanted them. I am not doing very big accounts either.
  17. LwnmwrMan22

    LwnmwrMan22 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 28,362

    What I do for service outside of the months invoiced (IF at all, it'll be a real late October plowing, usually not too much snow falls around here in May) I just tell them that my agreements are good for the whole season. That's how you base it all, an average of x times per season.

    If it snowed in July, I don't know if I'd plow, or say "hey, you haven't signed up for next year yet".
  18. sk187

    sk187 Senior Member
    Messages: 338

    Thats the big money :)

    Then you get em on a per push / per event type situation - maybe even another $30,000 month.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2008
  19. Mowman62531

    Mowman62531 Member
    Messages: 98

    We do everything per push. Salting is extra. shoveling is extra. We also have a 2" trigger to go. Have a clause in our contracts for so much extra after 6". Hasn't been a real money making winter for us this year, only a couple good pushable events and it is now 42 degrees out!
  20. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Been plowing and billing the same way for 23 years.

    By the way you have to much porn on your computer!