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What plow do you use and why

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Jake's Lawn and Snow, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. I'm not sure where to post this thread, so I out it here.
    Good morning,
    I have spent a lot of time asking questions and reading replies and other threads regarding starting a business. Everyone has been very helpful.

    Here's another question.
    I will be buying either a GM 3500 or Ford F350 used, not sure of the year. I will be starting my business with only plowing residential driveways.
    What brand of plow would use use?
    Straight blade or V?
    Size?
    Why?

    I have used a Wide-out plow for commercial lots, worked great for big areas and lots of snow. Not sure what brand that was. Other than that, I've only used Boss V plows for a mix of commercial and residential properties. I'm looking for more insight than just my experience.

    Obviously just starting up and paying cash, I dont want to spend every penny I have saved this summer buying a truck and plow. So cheaper maybe a better option?

    Open to all opinions.
    Thank you.
     
  2. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Fanatic
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    I am a western guy. Reason is the ease of hooking up and un hooking the plow. Takes seconds to connect or disconnect. In the summer, you don't have a big plow bracket hanging down.

    I would get a vee plow - because a vee can be a stright blade, but a stright blade can't be a vee plow. That being said, there are alot more moving parts on a vee blade, so for the simplicity side of things, a stright blade may be better for your first plow?

    Mininum 8.6ft - so it is wider than you tire track pattern on your truck.
     
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  3. seville009

    seville009 PlowSite.com Addict
    from CNY
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  4. OP
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    Jake's Lawn and Snow

    Jake's Lawn and Snow Member
    Messages: 34

    8.6 even for small residentials?
     
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    Jake's Lawn and Snow

    Jake's Lawn and Snow Member
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  6. Fourteen Contracting Inc.

    Fourteen Contracting Inc. Senior Member
    Messages: 342

    You're from Wisconsin man!!!!

    I'm kidding. I like westerns (have a few wideouts and a v) I like the wideouts better for the reason you mentioned above, but I do mainly commercial.
    I think you'll find guys will recommend the plows they are used to. Really it comes down to the devil you know. All these plows will break at some point or another and it'll be up to you to figure it out at 2:30 am when the snow is flying. I like the westerns because I know how they break / problems that can occur and can usually get them going in a pinch.
     
  7. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,426

    I would recommend a jeep with a 6.6ft blade for small residential...

    you asked about a plow on a 1 ton pickup
     
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  8. Ajlawn1

    Ajlawn1 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,136

    The biggest question will be dealer support and parts. Is one closer or better to deal with then the next...

    Personally I would go Boss, why?

    1) Faster hookup then Western...

    2) 96% of the wiring issue threads on here are Western and they all go back to the same cure (check your grounds)

    3) Chain lifts suck and everybody welds them anyway...:rolleyes:
     
  9. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Fanatic
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  10. ZL1

    ZL1 Member
    Messages: 30

    You are in Wisconsin. Westerns are built in Wisconsin, and there are no shortage of dealers, expertise or parts (not that you need a lot of the latter two w. Western) here.

    'Nuff said?
     
  11. Western1

    Western1 PlowSite.com Addict
    from MI.
    Messages: 1,865

    I think a showdown at the ok corral is in store or at least at a pub
     
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  12. EWSplow

    EWSplow PlowSite Fanatic
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    Yes, especially in a v plow.
    And yes, I agree with most others, with a v plow you have a lot more flexibility and maneuverability.

    Yes, you can do wonders with a jeep with a v plow.
    If I didn't have another truck, I'd prefer a 7'-6" v plow on a jeep vs 6'-6". Wilder path when cornering, etc.

    If you're salting, you're going to be cleaning salt out of the interior though. No good way to carry a decent amount of salt.

    As mentioned, dealer support is key. You want to have parts and service available for immediate repairs.

    I won't get into what brand of boss v plow I prefer.
     
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  13. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Fanatic
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    We were already told no by management...
     
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  14. Western1

    Western1 PlowSite.com Addict
    from MI.
    Messages: 1,865

    Change management
     
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  15. NYH1

    NYH1 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,304

    I prefer a v-plows.

    NYH1.
     
  16. jomama45

    jomama45 2000 Club Member
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    Keep in mind, Boss is made just over the border in the UP, which is really more Wisconsin than Meatchicken anyways......
     
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  17. Ajlawn1

    Ajlawn1 PlowSite Fanatic
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    Especially according to Mt Dew...
     
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  18. EWSplow

    EWSplow PlowSite Fanatic
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    You could spit a cherry pit and hit Wisconsin from the boss plant...
     
  19. Michael J. Donovan

    Michael J. Donovan Head Moderator, Online Communities Staff Member
    Messages: 2,322

    ok, let's get back to the topic please
     
  20. Kinport

    Kinport Senior Member
    Messages: 156

    I have a small fleet of Fisher and Boss plows. All v plows with the exception of a Boss 8" straight blade. I have been impressed with the durability of both brands and wouldn't hesitate to buy new or used of either. All of my plows generally have 1 or 2 things break/wear out each year, but I haven't had any major recurring issues with any of them. V plows offer more versatility and would be my first choice. I can do all same stuff with a straight blade, but in really deep snow it might take a little longer. A couple upsides (in my opinion) to straight blades is they have less moving parts to break and they are cheaper both new and used. I would go with the biggest plow my truck could handle.

    Here are some plows I would avoid:
    Fisher Extreme V-the first generation of these plows had problems that are well documented on this sight, most to do with being underbuilt in a few areas. They are still building this plow so perhaps by now they've addressed the issues. Get an xv2 or even an older ezv if you want a fisher V.
    Boss ext: Seemed like this plow was rushed to market to compete with other expandable plows when it first came out a few years back and also has had some problems that are well documented here. They are also still being built so I imagine they addressed those.
    Boss VXT- a good plow, but as these plows age I've seen several (as well as hearing from owners/operators) that the head gear is underbuilt, and an internet search will turn up pictures of cockeyed plows. Buy the DXT, same plow with heavier head gear. This plow is also still being built, and perhaps they've fixed the issue.

    You mentioned cost and wanting to keep it low, so hopefully your watching classifieds. Buying any new plow will cost about the same regardless of which brand you go with. There isn't really any "budget" brand plows (that I'm aware of) that builds a low cost plow that holds up to the abuse of plowing year after year.

    Several people mentioned Western. I've had 2-3 Western unimount straight blade over the years. All of them were great plows and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another.
     
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