weld problem-Boss

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by PINEISLAND1, Nov 24, 2000.


    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 664

    Anyone have this problem on their Boss'? Is it common?

    <img src="http://www.geocities.com/tfrontjes/plowweld.jpg">
  2. Lazer

    Lazer Senior Member
    Messages: 399

    Don't get me started!

    Mine's slightly worse and I've never hit anything. A lot of our older units have been MUCH more abused and are just fine.
  3. Alan

    Alan PlowSite.com Addict
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    And I thought taht Sno-Way was the only ones who had absolute crap welding quality control.
  4. GeoffD

    GeoffD PlowSite.com Veteran
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    My Fisher's Don't do that.

  5. diggerman

    diggerman Senior Member
    from Ames
    Messages: 702

    Yeah,grind it down weld it up and go back to work, its not a major issue.Of my 8 I have to fix one of these points every now and then,we just repair them when they are in the shop getting serviced after a snow.
  6. Lazer

    Lazer Senior Member
    Messages: 399

    No and the 1st 2 types of Boss V's didn't, either.

    This is only a problem on the 1998's and newer.

    This problem (and the RTII) has really bled off my brand loyalty to Boss.
  7. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    We've had only a handful of problems with our Boss's over the past 6 years. What is depicted is not one of them. However, I'm with Digger - grind it out, weld it up, and go forward.

    At least you don't have to weld it daily (like with Meyers).
  8. Lazer

    Lazer Senior Member
    Messages: 399

    Do you have any of these new ones?
  9. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    We're having a brand new one installed on a 2001 3/4 ton Dodge later this week. You can be sure that I'll be taking a close look at it once it comes in, and having my mechanic take a close look at the welds you showed in your picture.

    Can't be too careful.....

    We bought a brand new one last season too - and we'll be looking at that one on Monday too, just in case.....
  10. Lazer

    Lazer Senior Member
    Messages: 399

    It's not a weld flaw.

    It's a design flaw that snaps the bottom port side retainer ring and places undue stress on the seam weld.

    I don't believe it's coincidence that PineIslands front plow look identical to the ones I've seen including mine.
  11. Greenman2ooo

    Greenman2ooo Banned
    Messages: 107

    I'm curious. I've heard others talk about the fact that the Boss is a full trip blade which can't trip in the V position. Do you Boss fans think perhaps this could be caused by this? I'm not trying to bash Boss since I know a lot of you guys love them.


    I looked at the SnoWay Lobo the other day and was highly underwhelmed. It was really "tinny" and not nearly as heavy as the Boss or Western MVP.
  12. Lazer

    Lazer Senior Member
    Messages: 399

    Greenman, it's not that, because for 10 years Boss built full-trip blades that you could beat on until the truck frame bent and the plow would hang in there like a bulldozer blade.

    Now, I do think (know) it's high time for Boss offer a trip-edge plow or they'll lose customers.

    But this (minor) design flaw is not directly related to the full-trip feature.
  13. Greenman2ooo

    Greenman2ooo Banned
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    They already lost one. Me. I like the plow. I just was hesitant since even a Boss fan such as yourself admits it is high time they offer a trip edge plow.

    I bought the MVP instead since members of this forum advised a trip edge plow would save wear and tear on both the plow and my vehicle. Eventhough I can't speak from experience, it made sense to me when advised that a trip edge design would protect both vehicle and plow a little more.

    Maybe my MVP won't last any longer because of the trip edge design, who knows? Either way, it may have cost Boss a sale.

    [Edited by Greenman2ooo on 11-27-2000 at 02:50 AM]
  14. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    Sure enough.... We checked our Boss plows and found that we had two with the welds cracked in the area shown on Pineislands' picture. We've fixed them.

    Thanks for the heads up.
  15. DaveO

    DaveO PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Ma.
    Messages: 299


    Can you explain your theory of the design flaw in more detail. I don't own a Boss, or have one in front of me to look at. I'm trying to understand what you mean. It does appear the welds are being overstressed.

  16. OP

    PINEISLAND1 PlowSite.com Veteran
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    Hey John-

    Did you do anything else to them other than weld them? Is there any other fix or idea to prevent it from happening again?
  17. John Allin

    John Allin PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,327

    Naw... we just ground it out and rewelded it. We'll see if it was enough after the next couple plowings. We'll be paying closer attention to it now that you've brought it to light.
  18. Chuck Smith

    Chuck Smith 2000 Club Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 2,324

    Just a thought. If you were to reinforce that area somehow, then the next weakest area will give instead. May be best to just grind, weld, and leave it alone.