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Union problems

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by mrbew, Nov 29, 2011.

  1. mrbew

    mrbew Junior Member
    Messages: 1

    Been plowing the same properties for seven years. Now I'm told we have to be union.

    Any suggestions?
  2. campkd6

    campkd6 Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    Don't you mean legalized extortion? Because that's what I call I am union by force not by choice.
  3. luky013

    luky013 Junior Member
    Messages: 29

    are you sure you do not have to just pay the prevailing wage? I dont think they can force you to be union. what type of property are we talking about?
  4. NickT

    NickT Senior Member
    Messages: 707

    Exactly I'm in the same boat
  5. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Assuming this is legal, I'd be telling the customer they need to find a new contractor.
  6. NickT

    NickT Senior Member
    Messages: 707

    What union would u have to join?
  7. brianbrich1

    brianbrich1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,102

    I would imagine operators union is who is having a probleam. The only way any company can ask you to be union is if they have policy to use only union vendors and union themselves.....dont do it for just one gig you will pay out more than you make.
  8. CGM Inc.

    CGM Inc. PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,598

    ........x2 on that! :drinkup:

    SNOWLORD Senior Member
    from MN
    Messages: 610

    I ran into this before as well, I simply told them no problem as long as your willing to take a price increase of $35 per hour on every piece of equipment to cover my additional cost. Needless to say I didnt end up doing the account but the moral of the story is never tell a customer no. I feel you should always make them tell you it wont work.
  10. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Self employed can't join unions.
  11. adamhumberview

    adamhumberview Senior Member
    Messages: 278

    i dont know much about the states unions, but around here for us, the company has to have more than 7 field employees to go union. depending on what markets you want to serve, unions are good or bad. we are not union, and they have no interest in us.
  12. mustangman02232

    mustangman02232 Senior Member
    Messages: 148

    this, local place around here had all the union guys doing it, well they had issues doing it because well there lazy union workers, so a friend got hired, they were pi$$ed, so next contract they added that whoever plows has to be union, so we lost out.
  13. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Around here they don't want to plow just collect unemployment checks during the winter. That's the problem to ,they want,want but don't want to work.
  14. campkd6

    campkd6 Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    I am self employed and a Teamster have an owner operator card with no benefits or pension.
  15. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    I assume you have 2 jobs,teamster union card and another job working for yourself?
  16. Banksy

    Banksy PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,113

    Then what is the point? I'm a Teamster member too, but I get something from it.
  17. cubanb343

    cubanb343 Senior Member
    from ERIE
    Messages: 637

    This story has a bad smell from post #1. Let's hear the full story mrbew. Since you have one post ever-

    Let's hear what union is forcing you to join them to plow snow. We're in the snow belt here and no unions bother any of the snow contractors. Even the ones with loaders.

    I'm in a union and not too lazy to work.
  18. cubanb343

    cubanb343 Senior Member
    from ERIE
    Messages: 637

    and prevailing wage only applies to state/federally funded projects. and i know many non-union people who have benefitted from that.
  19. campkd6

    campkd6 Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    Nope one job I own my own trucking company and have to be union to go on a lot of the job sites.
  20. campkd6

    campkd6 Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    The right to work hence the comment earlier about legalized extortion. Pay to Play.