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Ultra vs Uni-mounts?

Discussion in 'Western Plows Discussion' started by old skool, Jan 13, 2008.

  1. old skool

    old skool Senior Member
    from NW IL
    Messages: 167

    Ive been starting to look at used plows for my, just aquired 97 Chevy K3500. Im not real familiar with any of the Western mounts. I have seen the Ultra mounts, and they look pretty easy to hook up. Being newer, they are harderd to find and probably a little more expensive.

    It looks like the Uni-mount also drops the pump and lights with the plow...but how does everything hook up to the trucks undercarriage? Does it have 4 pins/ are they easy to hook up also? Any other "quirks" ? Thanks.
  2. Joshjeepcj7

    Joshjeepcj7 Member
    Messages: 68

    the unimount lights and headgear do come off with the plow and the use 4 pins to hookup their not to bad to attach the frame to the truck plus you should find one pretty reasonable
  3. Mowman62531

    Mowman62531 Member
    Messages: 98

    The only problem with the unimount is that the brackets hang down quite a ways the rest of the year. The ultramount brackets come off with one pin on each side and you don't loose any ground clearance.
  4. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    Spend the money and get a ultra mount.
  5. old skool

    old skool Senior Member
    from NW IL
    Messages: 167

    Thanks for the input guys.., Im going to finish this year with the 7 1/2 foot Western that was on the 97 when I bought it, so Im not going to need anything before next winter. I had been thinking of installing the 9 foot Meyers from my 80 K30 dually on the 97, but with the new truck being a single wheel, Im a little concerned about that being a bit much for it?

    I do like the ultra...probably an 8 foot size would be best?.
  6. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,794

    The unimounts can be a pita sometimes trying to hook them up yourselves. They go on much easier with 2 people.

    Btw, where in nw IL are you?
  7. mkwl

    mkwl 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,362

    Fisher Minute Mount 2 hands down:D, there's no easier mounting system out there!
  8. old skool

    old skool Senior Member
    from NW IL
    Messages: 167

    Mark, Im in the Sterling area, how 'bout you?

    Matt, Would like to stick to Western or Meyer....possibly a Boss...( dealers in area.)
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2008
  9. KelleyZP

    KelleyZP Member
    Messages: 44

    ULTRA mount no doubt- very easy and simple to hook up and as previously stated, the plow frame does not reduce your ground clearence in the summer- an excellent produce
  10. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,794

    I'm in Woodstock.
  11. doh

    doh Senior Member
    Messages: 253

    Ultra, for 2 reasons.

    Hook up, and headlights.

    I have a Uni, and plow with a Ultra at work, 2 weeks ago after plowing my accounts, I jumped out of my truck and into the shop truck to plow the lot. I couldn't believe that "I could SEE" Man you never really know until you do 1 after another, how bad it really is.
  12. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    They are with help or the use of a floor jack, without either or there not on level ground they can be a real pain.

    Sounds like that ones based on personal opinion..:D

    No reason you can't run the C-9 on your K3500, single wheel or not. That truck is more than capable.
  13. old skool

    old skool Senior Member
    from NW IL
    Messages: 167

    You think it will handle the C9 ok? I wasnt very happy the first time I used the 97... not near as much @ss as the old 80 dually. (the 80 weighs in around 7200 empty and is powered by a 454 ).... I felt like I was plowing with a garden tractor at first. But in all fairness.. it was a very wet snow that had a lot of hard pack underneath,that was like ice. Plus, I'm used to a mud-type lug tire, where the new truck has half worn out all seasons on it (for now).

    I have used the 97 in about 5" of "regular" snow,with 500 lbs of ballast, and it was much better. Maybe I will try the Meyer next winter with a new set of tires. I only plow 6 or 7 accounts anymore ( I used to do over 30 commercial ones) so its hard to justify 4 grand for a new set-up. The only other thing is finding a place under the hood for the Monarch electic pump I run. Might have to re-locate a charcoal emission canister.
  14. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    Nope, Sorry I own both a fisher and western. Western still is easier.

    Oldschool- If I where you. I would keep that 7.5 unimount. If you want to go wider, put some aftermarket prowings on it. You just asking for trouble taking that reliable western off and putting a meyers on it. Even with the monarch pump.
  15. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    The 97 will take the C9 just fine..

    A few turns on the T-bars (maybe a set of Timbrens if necessary) and the proper ballast and tires, just like setting up any other truck and it'll work fine. Spending $4000 on a new 8 ft Ultra won't make it handle or carry any better or worse than the C-9 you already own. And since your planning on using the Monarch hydro's, it won't be any more or less reliable either.
  16. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    Um yea right. He will still have the pivot pin problem. The king pin problems. Weak A frame problem, etc. I work on all plows at my day job. Yes the monarch hydros will get the crappy pumps problem fixed. But not the weak links in a meyers fixed.
  17. B&B

    B&B PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,777

    So you'd recommend spending $4000 vs. maintaining a currently owned plow? That's what it sounds like to me as pivot pin problems are due to lack of maintenance (read: grease).

    And don't worry, I fix Western king bolts and A-frames here too, I'm not biased ;).
  18. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,993

    Listen to the man! unlike the rest of us he works on plows at his day job. So listen to the Pro if it isn't Western it's a POS.:rolleyes:
  19. Ggg6

    Ggg6 Senior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 521

    I am sure Fisher makes a good plow, but unfortunately dealer support in N.W. IL sucks. I can't remember the last time I saw a Fisher around here, same for Hiniker, Snow-way, Curtis, & Diamond. The brands with the best dealer support around here are Western, Meyer, Boss, & maybe Blizzard. But by far you see Western the most.
    I have my Unimount stored on a fixture I made with caster wheels on it. It moves so easy a child could position it onto the truck. It takes litterally less that a minute to hook it up.
    Old Skool I am in the Rockford area. IMO I would run more weight in the bed, 800# is what I run on an F350 SRW PSD RC, it weighs around 9000 with the plow & balast on.
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2008
  20. itsgottobegreen

    itsgottobegreen PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,351

    Um I doubt you have ever fixed a pro plus pivot pin. Since the entire pivot point is made out of 1/2" thick steel plate and heavy wall tubing with a 7/8" diameter bolts that is 8" long as the pivot pin.

    BTW I work on all major plows at my day job. Our bread and butter comes from repairing meyers.