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Townhome Division

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by Avery Landscape, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Avery Landscape

    Avery Landscape Junior Member
    from 5
    Messages: 11

    ..so this is my second year in snow.. first was small with just me a snowblower and 15 drives.. but now i have one of my customers offering me the complete maintenance on a new townhome division.. starting off with snow this winter... so i need help on a few things..

    first off.. there are about 80 downhomes.. roughly 45 driveways.. and then sidewalks along the streets.. county takes care of the streets... i haven't bid anything like this before and am quite unsure how to.. i would like an x amount of dollars per month no matter what happens... november-march.. i charged $25 for a .5"-3" snowfall on regular residential drives last year but again, this is different as i'm sure they get a significant discount for having 45 drives in one place at one time... so i would like a little advice on what or how to charge this.. i live in northeast kansas if that helps.. also in a college town with a pop 0f 50,000.. half of that is students

    also.. i would like to know any other equipment i need.. currently i have a 96' f150 2wd with a toro 2450 snowblower... there were several new possibilities i was thinking of..

    a) buy a new truck.. something like a 01' Ext cab 1500 silverado, z71 4x4.. put a nice plow on that and put a couple snowblowers in the bed with a couple extra guys in the truck..

    b) keep my current truck and just do the division with a crew of guys and snowblowers..

    c) whatever you guys say i should do..

    any help would be greatley appreciated...

    also.. how many people/equipment is needed to take care of this efficiantly as well as other random jobs throughout the city..
  2. Avery Landscape

    Avery Landscape Junior Member
    from 5
    Messages: 11

    ok... so i've done some thinking on this and here is what i came up with...

    i think i will purchase an 01'ish chevrolet silverado 1500 z71 4x4 crew cab LT

    Put 3 guys in the truck along with me...

    Put four toro 2450 snowblowers in the bed...

    Figure one guy can do one drive in 15 minutes..

    4guys X 4drives/hour = 16 drives per hour

    $25/drive X 16 drives = $400/hour

    $15 X 3labor = $45

    Total Profit/hour = $345

    I think that this set up will suit me very well as i don't have any work that requires the use of a plow and then i don't feel like trashing this new pickup or dealing with all the damages i will cause by using the plow..

    As far as bidding goes here's what i think..

    There's 45 drives right?? and then sidewalks to and from..

    I normally charge $25 for a reg snowfall drive (0-3)

    so then i'm gunna add another $5 to cover larger snowfalls and the sidewalks..

    So $30 X 45 = $1,350

    For my fixed contarcts i am figuring 4 services per month

    This comes to $5,400..

    but then you think that they deserve a large discount because of the fact its all inone area.. and yea..

    so i'm thinking 25%???

    which discounts $1,350

    For a grand total of... $4,050 per month

    Nov.-Mar. = 5 months

    $4,050 X 5 = $20,250 For The Season

    ...but then each home pays $50 per month for maintenance.. 80 homes, this comes out to $4,000..... so maybe I'm high??

    let me know your opinions!

    Thanks in advance, Aaron
  3. PLM-1

    PLM-1 Senior Member
    Messages: 424

    Lawrence KS?
  4. Avery Landscape

    Avery Landscape Junior Member
    from 5
    Messages: 11

    Manhattan, KS
  5. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,257

    If you have 45 driveways and you are doing 16/hour, do you have guys willing to get out of bed, in the middle of the night for $45. I think you are right with the snowblower. It will do a better job then the truck. Remember that you have to come back after the street plow has been through.
  6. Avery Landscape

    Avery Landscape Junior Member
    from 5
    Messages: 11

    these guys will be working 8-12 hours... i will have another 30 drives i will be maintaning for various residents and i will more than likely have to hit that development up twice..

    i'm still needing help with knowing where i stand on the bidding..

    I came up with $3,375 per month for 5 months