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Throwing snow into the street

Discussion in 'Residential Snow Removal' started by beardown34, Mar 16, 2014.

  1. beardown34

    beardown34 Junior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 3

    Just wondering -- what is the general thought on throwing snow from your driveway into the street -- BEFORE the plows have begun to run? Like if you found a window of opportunity after the snow stops falling, but before the plows have begun to run?

    Obviously it's a no-no after the plows have cleared the street.
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Your one of those people.Why? Put it on your lawn ,why put in in the street ,I've seen people do this and they put in on the left side and it gets pushed right back into the driveway.
  3. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,390

    Never in the street. No no.
  4. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,978

    only thing you can throw in a street is water, frozen not included
  5. DieselSlug

    DieselSlug PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,068

    I don't see why people do this. Some up here throw their ashes in piles in the road also. Just creates more of a driving hazard.
  6. beardown34

    beardown34 Junior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 3

    Want to get judgy? It's you're, not your. And no, I'm not. Every once in a while people ask hypothetical questions, even if its not what they themselves do. I have a robust enough snowthrower that I can throw the snow where I want it to go. I was just curious about the opinion from plow operators. Not being a commercial snow clearer or whatever they're called, I don't know if this practice causes plow operators any more work, if the street hasn't been plowed yet.
  7. CashinH&P

    CashinH&P Senior Member
    Messages: 448

    If I see some one blowing snow into the street (before or after) the town plows have come by, I drop my plow and send the snow flying back into there driveway. I dont understand why people do this. Blowing snow into the road is a good way to kill some one.
  8. JB1

    JB1 Senior Member
    Messages: 182

    Can't believe people even do this or ask to do this.
  9. SnowGuy73

    SnowGuy73 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 24,870

    Great attitude.... Welcome to the site!
  10. cartec01

    cartec01 Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    Sorry beardown, this is a touchy subject for people, I'll explain the best I can to answer you.

    Before it snows: Instant change in consistency of material being driven through...
    Lets say there is 3" of snow on the road. Driving in the snow is not overly hard like most people seem to think. Ok, you are one a street that in 3" of snow people are traveling at 30mph. (I do NOT think this is unrealistic) The 3" of snow has a certain consistency and you are moving along fine and your vehicle is behaving a certain way because of the 3" of snow and you are compensating for that. Now you come up to someone's "tailings" that they decided to blow into the street. You can't see it because it's white like everything else. Now when the vehicle hits the tailings, the forward resistance changes instantly, etc... and it can be a dangerous situation. You could lose control, or worse if somebody is oncoming you could instantly be pushed into their lane.
    Now enter the professional plow truck operator who, like myself, after 10 plus hours straight of driving in the snow, might at that point be going faster then conditions warrant. (the best way I can put it) You can come to your own conclusion.

    2. isn't it easier to blow the snow to the sides with each pass, then straight ahead? I suppose if the driveway was wider then long it isn't, but come on, it's your responsibility.

    After it snows, it is kind of obvious why you shouldn't do it. I plow one drive that for some reason everybody in this street blows into the road, even after the road is plow. The drives are all about 30 feet apart. It is funny watching people try to go in the uphill direction on this street, but these same people blow it into the street the next storm.
    Also, for me I like to drive with my blade kind of low. If a road is clear at night and I am doing 45-50 between jobs with my blade about 4 inches off the ground, and I hit somebodies 7" tall windrow, well, lets just say I have turned around and pushed it straight back into their driveway more then once.
  11. terrapro

    terrapro PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,912

    The majority of everywhere it is illegal. Snow needs to stay on the property it fell on. The only exception is roadways need somewhere to put it so they put it on your property, get over it your wrong.
  12. Camden

    Camden PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,604

    Right, riiiiight....just like the guy wanted to know if Viagra really works (he was asking for a friend, of course).
  13. Snoviper

    Snoviper Senior Member
    Messages: 121

    It is illegal here to put snow in the street, but I see lots of people do it.
  14. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

  15. beardown34

    beardown34 Junior Member
    from IL
    Messages: 3

    Haha! Wait, nevermind. It's great that an established community of posters here is so dismissive of a genuine question. Especially when a comment from a plow driver vindictively burying someone's driveway is just conveniently ignored. Is that your domain for vigilante justice? What if that homeowner had a medical emergency and people couldn't get in or out of their driveway? Doesn't matter. You got to prove your point and then go home and post your exploits on an internet forum for others to pat you on your e-back.

    I was asking a question out of curiousity. I figured the perspective from users of plowsite would be helpful.

    I am not talking about maliciously going out of your way to make sure every flake of snow from your driveway ends up in the street. Put it this way: (1) I see most people clear snow to about 1-2 feet beyond the end of their driveway. (2) If you are using your snowthrower in a longitudinal path down your driveway towards the street, as most people do, then unless your chute can turn more than 90 degrees to the left or right of center, and actually throw snow backwards towards your lawn, then some of that snow is going to end up in the street. Ideally of course, most of that ends up still fairly close to the curb, but towards the end of a very snowy season, "the curb" is probably also extending into the street.

    If you accept that points (1) and (2) are realistic occurrences, then wouldn't you rather have this extra snow in the street before the plows come by, rather than after?

    I have a capable dual stage that allows me to go back over this snow that has ended up into the edges of the street and blow it back onto my lawn, but this cannot always be reasonably possible for those with shovels or single stage machines. As for the question about why not just always throw the snow to the right or left, if you've had experience with "average" single stage machines in heavier snow, you'd know that the machine absolutely throws snow better in the straight ahead direction, and is more likely to clog when throwing left or right.

    I replied here to try to clarify my initial question and hypothetical scenario. If I can get some constructive information, then great. If this is just met with more cynicism and group speak, then seriously, I won't waste your time anymore and we can just let this thread die.
  16. Northwind

    Northwind Junior Member
    from Da U.P.
    Messages: 28

    You did ask " what is the general thought on throwing snow from your driveway into the street".
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    1 your adding snow to the street posses a added hazard.
    It is much harder to drive threw.
    Your actions make it harder for others to use the road.

    Next, if your snow blower doesn't work well throwing the snow to the side but it does going forward.
    You then need to change how you operate it.

    Go from side to side...;)

  18. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,390

    If your that concerned over the snow going into.the street b/c your blower can't throw backwards then change your approach. Stop right before the end of the drive and turn the machine towards the parkway. So you should in theory only have 3 blower widths that are going horizontal and almost bo snow in the street
  19. ServiceOnSite

    ServiceOnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 950

    Yea so you're a troll and a grammar Nazi. Good for you.
  20. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    It's illegal here to put snow in the road or even the right of way. Most companies (including us) do pile snow in the right of way though at the corner of the drive in the lawn. We have noticed though every year there are more & more companies that are just back dragging the drive into the road & either leaving the pile it the road there of smacking it once with the plow & driving away (spreading it in the road). It doesn't matter if the road is plowed or not they still do it. For what we have seen it is the same companies that are doing drives on the cheap. Unfortunately our market people purchase mainly based on price & the town doesn't do squat to enforce the law.