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I know I do. Just something I've noticed.hark;2128046 said:
I'll be buying a western this year if I buy something
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DD should either make the wideout with tripedge or make the fisher mounting similar to the untramount system
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That makes too much sense for DD.
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They should take all the best features from all of them and make 1 plow. Put all their people, technology, budget and perfect 1 plow. Make it the best.chachi1984;2128103 said:
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Apples and oranges.ponyboy;2128115 said:
It's stupid to have 3 different versions of the same plow. Tooling, R&D, parts, etc all to make the same plow with minor differences.
What's even more stupid is to stop making the full size 8611.
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Yes a bit different
But some like trip edge some like full trip plow
I agree on full size being stupid
But we all know nothing is built better now then in the past
They want you to buy new plows every new truck and many folks gets new truck every 3-5 years
I'm one of them I like to stay new with less problem
But some like trip edge some like full trip plow
I agree on full size being stupid
But we all know nothing is built better now then in the past
They want you to buy new plows every new truck and many folks gets new truck every 3-5 years
I'm one of them I like to stay new with less problem
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Took some time to examine and photograph one of the SX 8611's today. I see what Mark is referring to. It is hard to tell without removing the cutting edge if there is any deformation to the moldboard lower edge (aka the angle iron) or if it is simply the bolts stretching under load. I am leaning towards the bolts stretching. When I get a chance I will load some pics.
Looks like very little wear on the lift cylinder pins. Those pins are small. I would have expected bigger but so far they are doing alright.
We all miss the full size 8611. It was a great plow. But in talking with Michael Frank it is understandable why they decided not to continue devoting resources to it.
I will compare in plowing terms:
Imagine your trucks are tooled up to plow big commercial lots and you have a lots of those commercial lots to plow. You are busy. Then your cousin Jim from across town calls and says he wants you to plow his driveway by 5 am anytime it snows. You do not add a single residential driveway on the other side of town to your plow route just because the work is there. The benefits do not exceed what you give up. That doesn't make cousin Jim happy, but it is your business and your choice to do what is best for your company.
To all of you who would plow cousin Jim's place anyway, a tip of the hat, because, for you, it is not all about the money.
Looks like very little wear on the lift cylinder pins. Those pins are small. I would have expected bigger but so far they are doing alright.
We all miss the full size 8611. It was a great plow. But in talking with Michael Frank it is understandable why they decided not to continue devoting resources to it.
I will compare in plowing terms:
Imagine your trucks are tooled up to plow big commercial lots and you have a lots of those commercial lots to plow. You are busy. Then your cousin Jim from across town calls and says he wants you to plow his driveway by 5 am anytime it snows. You do not add a single residential driveway on the other side of town to your plow route just because the work is there. The benefits do not exceed what you give up. That doesn't make cousin Jim happy, but it is your business and your choice to do what is best for your company.
To all of you who would plow cousin Jim's place anyway, a tip of the hat, because, for you, it is not all about the money.
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That would be the cats ass. Would like to see that setup. Western has the easiest mounting system. But would like to have the trip edge like whats on the fisher.
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Really??? Last time I checked ford Chevy and Dodge were "ALL DIFFERENT COMPANIES". so what your really asking is, should DD, boss, and snowdogg all merge. The answer is clearly NO.ponyboy;2128115 said:
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What I don't understand, is somehow DD has decided it makes sense and is profitable to build 3 different truck side mounts for every truck, and 3 different plow side mounts to go on each of the 3 different truck sides. On top of that, they're built in different factories hundreds of miles apart, requiring more resources and overhead. All the while maintaining less than stellar quality control.
But for some reason, it made sense to discontinue the full size 8611.
Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to build one plow as best as possible, vs half ass build 3 extremely similar colors of every plow complete with different truck sides?
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong.
But for some reason, it made sense to discontinue the full size 8611.
Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to build one plow as best as possible, vs half ass build 3 extremely similar colors of every plow complete with different truck sides?
Maybe I'm looking at it wrong.
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Not really sure I am getting it, but DD already had the tooling for standard 8611's. Maybe not much call for them, but the tooling, R&D, etc is already there. They just pissed off an entire market segment. I don't want an 8-10' plow on a 450-550 truck. And the smaller 8611's will not stand up to that size truck. The pictures I posted are from a 350 SRW pickup.bliz&hinikerDLR;2128178 said:
How many 10' does Fisher sell?
Not to mention, 10 years too late they're getting into the rubber edged pusher market. I know, they're buying them from Pro-Tech, but the point remains, they are expanding certain markets while saying "screw you" to others. Others that have no competition whatsoever. Rubber edged pushers are a dime a dozen and old school. Everyone with half a brain is developing\releasing steel edge pushers.
Someone in DD's marketing department is a moron of immense proportions. Not to mention clueless.
Yes, you are looking at it completely wrong. You make sense. DD has issues with that.John_DeereGreen;2128291 said:
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Gross or net? Who cares if you gross another 10 million, if it costs you 11 to do it why bother?dieselss;2128296 said:
Lets face it. People with expanding plows are rarely willing to run anything but an expanding plow. Pat is about the only exception.
If all 3 brands were turned into one blade "Wefishex" everyone would buy that if they wanted an expanding plow. Only requires one production line, one paint color, one truck side manufacturer. And a hell of a lot less support staff to run just one factory.
Seems to make a lot more sense to me. What do I know, I landscape and plow snow for a living.
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Gross or net? Who cares if you gross another 10 million, if it costs you 11 to do it why bother?
It don't matter, 3 lines, 3 mounts, 3 different price ranges=$$$$$$$$
One plow one mount, y'all are forgetting that there other plows won't fit.
Doesn't financially make sense to put all your eggs in one basket.
And within DD, how do you know that it's not 3 separate entities under one roof?
It don't matter, 3 lines, 3 mounts, 3 different price ranges=$$$$$$$$
One plow one mount, y'all are forgetting that there other plows won't fit.
Doesn't financially make sense to put all your eggs in one basket.
And within DD, how do you know that it's not 3 separate entities under one roof?
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Boss wins, problem solved. boss is super easy to hook up. i have 7 of them, in 6 years ive replaced 1 bolt, 1 hose, and 1 truck side cable.
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Too many eggs in one basket. Dd can also have a larger market share with all the brands they hve due to over lapping territories.John_DeereGreen;2128291 said:
Not everyone knows they're all owned by the same company. Boss got brought up by toro I'm curious to how that will play out as well
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