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Snow pusher issues

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by RNRlandscapes, Dec 3, 2014.

  1. RNRlandscapes

    RNRlandscapes Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Recently purchased a new 8' pusher for our skid steer. After using it the first time we noticed the steel 6" ar400 shoes were leaving scratches in the newly sealed blacktop. Anyone have any experience with such a thing?

    Not sure if I need to line the shoes with polyurethane or if there is another option. It appears the bottom of the shoes was a bit rough at first and they may be wore a bit smoother now but I don't want it to be an issue for the customer going forward.

    Anyone use something other than the steel shoes? I even contemplated getting 4"x4"x30" long polyurethane block to attach to the pusher as a wear shoe??? Our pusher has an 8' rubber cutting edge currently.

    Thanks for any suggestions!
  2. mtnbktrek

    mtnbktrek Senior Member
    from NEPA
    Messages: 144

    When you push a block of steel across fresh tar that's gunna leave a mark. Mayb you use too much down force on the box
  3. RNRlandscapes

    RNRlandscapes Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    I understand. I personally tried to vary the down pressure from very little to slightly more pressure and it still left scratches. Customer is really picky so I'm just seeing if any of you have come up with a solution.

  4. alldayrj

    alldayrj PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,108

    Was the skid steer in float mode?
  5. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,980

    set the rubber 3/4" below the shoe and don't use a lot of down pressure
  6. rrvsnow

    rrvsnow Junior Member
    Messages: 15

    Had this issue with a loader model once,turned out to be a rough weld on seam of skid plate, right where it angles up in the back. Grinded it smooth, wasn't an issue after that. Run it across some clean and bare cement vary slowly, and you should be able to pinpoint where marks are being produced. Helper comes in handy for this. Preferably not customers cement though, haha. Running rubber 3/4" below skid idea, sounds like an easy way to prematurely spend money on rubber edges, imo.
  7. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,247

    Just a question, do you know where the rubber should be adjusted to.
  8. dieselss

    dieselss PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,395

    1/4 below the shoes
  9. Superior L & L

    Superior L & L PlowSite Veteran
    from MI
    Messages: 3,041

    I've been looking into rubber positioning due to not getting our lots scrapped down real good. I talked with some of our larger contractors in town and all say put 3/4" ply wood under the shoes then tap down the rubber till it hits the ground
  10. Defcon 5

    Defcon 5 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,923

    Attach Poly to the bottom of the skid shoes and adjust the rubber edge accordingly......The company im with has 4 or 5 pushers they use on parking decks at the airport that they require this...If im out there in the next few days I will take some pictures...Thumbs Up
  11. RNRlandscapes

    RNRlandscapes Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    Just got done fabricating some new shoes with 2" thick x 6" wide UHMW. These replaced the steel shoes all together.

    They turned out really well I think I will try to get some pics posted tomorrow. We shall see how the UHMW wears but on a test run down my dry street the swirls left from the saw weren't even touched! Stuff seems very heavy duty compared to poly.
  12. NickSnow&Mow

    NickSnow&Mow Senior Member
    Messages: 670

    Uhmw is poly?? We also made 2" thick UHMW shoes for our pusher and seems to be working good
  13. RNRlandscapes

    RNRlandscapes Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    UHMW is different from polyurethane From what I ubderstand. Should last longer from what I have read.
  14. NickSnow&Mow

    NickSnow&Mow Senior Member
    Messages: 670

    oh its polyethalen right?
  15. Freshwater

    Freshwater PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,207

    Where did you get the UHMU? How did it come, roll? Sheet? What's it cost, I've never heard of it. Thanks Aaron.
  16. RNRlandscapes

    RNRlandscapes Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    I bought it from midland plastics


    Cost me about $230 for (2) 48" long x 6" wide x 2" thick pieces. Even though I only needed two pieces about 32" long they said because the sheets were 48" wide the price would be the same whether they were 32" long or the sheet width (48"). I cut the UHMW with a compound miter saw (standard wood blade) and drilled slots in the homemade shoes with a 1" bit punching 3-4 holes in a row so the shoe can be adjusted down as it wears if that makes sense.
  17. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,247

    That's exactly how I do it. Make sure its sitting level and not rocked back any.
  18. Protech Inc.

    Protech Inc. Senior Member
    Messages: 214


    Not sure what brand of containment plow you are using but we offer a UHMW Shoe, which is a polycarbonate padded shoe. The pads are replaceable. We have many customers that use them in parking garages, on pavers, and other sensitive surfaces.