Smoking policy

BossPlow2010

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
SE Michigan
Interested to see what you guys have in place for a “no smoking policy.”
I personally can’t stand the smell and when allowing it the past, have found cigarette butts on lawns, in trucks, etc… Policy here is, not in the trucks/ trailers, not on properties, nor do I want to smell it on properties or in trucks/trailers, if you want to do it on your lunch break, go for it, just don’t let me smell it.
Same goes for those stupid vape things with their disgusting fruity tooty smells.
 

Mark Oomkes

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
Grand Rapids, MI
I tell them they can smoke in my vehicles as long as I can't smell it when I get in. I tried the no smoking thing and gave up.

However, no smoking is allowed on mowers, etc. We have several customers that don't allow it on their property.

I hate the smell. I hate the mess. I hate the wasted time for smoke breaks. But it's hard enough to find employees that are alive.
 

prezek

Senior Member
I tell them they can smoke in my vehicles as long as I can't smell it when I get in. I tried the no smoking thing and gave up.

However, no smoking is allowed on mowers, etc. We have several customers that don't allow it on their property.

I hate the smell. I hate the mess. I hate the wasted time for smoke breaks. But it's hard enough to find employees that are alive.
I gave up on trying to restrict it. It sucks, but my top 3 guys smoke about 3 packs a day. There’s a few properties we can’t smoke on, but they know damn well they better not be tossing their butts around…drives me nuts but one of the things I’ve caved on…if they didn’t smoke while working, they’d be leaning against the truck 10 minutes every hour…maybe I should start advertising that we are a smoker friendly workplace!!
 

Mark Oomkes

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
Grand Rapids, MI
I gave up on trying to restrict it. It sucks, but my top 3 guys smoke about 3 packs a day. There’s a few properties we can’t smoke on, but they know damn well they better not be tossing their butts around…drives me nuts but one of the things I’ve caved on…if they didn’t smoke while working, they’d be leaning against the truck 10 minutes every hour…maybe I should start advertising that we are a smoker friendly workplace!!

Smoking is no longer bad for you, only Covid is.
 

EWSplow

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
Milwaukee
Your truck, your policy.
If its a truck you don't drive, maybe let them as long as they keep it clean. I only say this because if they're smoking on the way to a property, they won't be smoking there, or taking a break to smoke.
I also think its unprofessional to be smoking on a client's property. We're usually at unoccupied properties, I let people smoke outside. It whizzes me off when people throw their buts on the ground, anywhere. On many jobs i put a coffee can, or something for buts.
 

Mr.Markus

PlowSite Fanatic
We are pretty much province wide with no smoking in places of business, which includes outdoor patios and vehicles.

I smoked when I was younger, about a pack a day. I was the last of my friends to give it up, its been 20+ years but I still dream that I smoke.
Its like any addiction, you dont beat it, you replace it.... think I replaced it with work
 

BUFF

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
FR NoCo
Interested to see what you guys have in place for a “no smoking policy.”
I personally can’t stand the smell and when allowing it the past, have found cigarette butts on lawns, in trucks, etc… Policy here is, not in the trucks/ trailers, not on properties, nor do I want to smell it on properties or in trucks/trailers, if you want to do it on your lunch break, go for it, just don’t let me smell it.
Same goes for those stupid vape things with their disgusting fruity tooty smells.
Running crews and having them follow what you described is a tough one and doesn't seem to be working. Maintaining the company's image / brand is important butt you may want to consider rethinking your policy. @EWSplow brings up a good suggestion and allow them to smoke while going to the next site with some reasonable rules.
* only smoke with windows open
* no butts get tossed oot the window
* butts go in a used water or Gatorade bottle with the lid screwed on and they toss the bottle in the trash at the end of the day.
* put air fresheners like the Fabreeze type
*all the above for smoking in trailers.
I have the same thoughts aboot smokers and get what you're saying. If you limit them to smoking at lunch or a break they'll have to be oof site and get less done during the day.
We went no smoking in the building aboot 30yrs ago, smokers were walking oot to smoke when they felt the need and leaving butts all over the place. Put butt containers at the doors and in the patio and had mixed results. We can track when employees enter the building with their badges and those that were in/out a couple times in the morning and afternoon were talked to aboot it. We went from a 15min break in the morning to "2" 10mIn breaks one in the morning and other in the afternoon and the sneaking oot was addressed. 5 yrs ago we went to a non smoking property and smokers have to be oof of company property and there's a designated place to smoke in the back of the property which has a butt container. First shift employees abide to the policy pretty good, second and third shifts are still a problem and butts are in the parking lot along with empty liquor bottle and beer cans tossed in the bushes.
I had a few guys that were smokers before we went smokeless on company property and when we'd have meetings or one on one talks I'd have them ootside so the could smoke. I did that as a way to let them know if they follow the policy I can work with them to have a extra smoke when the stress levels were running high.
I haven't had a smoker work for me for aboot 6yrs but have a couple guys that chew and they're not slobs and discrete aboot it.
 

BUFF

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
FR NoCo
Reminds me of something. Many years ago we had new windows installed in the house, I made it clear to the sales moron I took pride in my property and expected it to be treated with respect and left clean. It wasn't. The sales rep spent about 30 min picking butts up out of the grass around my house & driveway area.
Had a new roof out on a few years ago and the company had a clean up crew pick things up after the roofers left. The owner would walk the property and make sure everything was picked up. He also told us if we found anything that was missed to let him know.
 

EWSplow

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
Milwaukee
Reminds me of something. Many years ago we had new windows installed in the house, I made it clear to the sales moron I took pride in my property and expected it to be treated with respect and left clean. It wasn't. The sales rep spent about 30 min picking butts up out of the grass around my house & driveway area.
This reminds me of a job we had. It was new house, with the lot, it was about $1.1 million. There was a bucket with sand outside for buts.
Well, I was in the office and got a call from the owner about cigarette buts being thrown on the ground. Being that it was close to my office, I went there.
The garage approach was formed and the rerod was in. The concrete crew had just gotten there to pour. A couple of guys, knowing they were going to be pouring concrete figured it was okay to throw their buts where what was going to be under the slab.
The owner didn't want cigarette buts under her new concrete.
 
Had a new roof out on a few years ago and the company had a clean up crew pick things up after the roofers left. The owner would walk the property and make sure everything was picked up. He also told us if we found anything that was missed to let him know.

Sounds like an owner that takes pride in his work/reputation and respects his customers.

All in all, I find smoking a disgusting habit and too many smokers disgusting people. Really aggravates me when I see butts tossed out car windows, esp when we're in a drought situation; and when I'm on my motorcycle.

When my company had a smoking area, I'd see the same people go out every one to two hours for a smoke break. Now they have to leave the property. Well, now most of them work from home.

Smokers also have to pay extra for health insurance now, unless they say they are trying to quit.
 

EWSplow

PlowSite Fanatic
Location
Milwaukee
@BossPlow2010 , have you thought about incentives for quitting smoking?
They're probably whizzing away close to an hour each day taking smoke breaks.
A little extra on their paycheck, or a bonus check + the $3-$4K they'll save annually might be an incentive to quit, at least for some.
 

m_ice

PlowSite Veteran
Location
illinois
I tell them they can smoke in my vehicles as long as I can't smell it when I get in. I tried the no smoking thing and gave up.

However, no smoking is allowed on mowers, etc. We have several customers that don't allow it on their property.

I hate the smell. I hate the mess. I hate the wasted time for smoke breaks. But it's hard enough to find employees that are alive.

We have the same policy...our customers smoking policy trumps ours if it's a no smoking property or designated smoking areas.
 

Top Forums

Similar threads

Similar threads

Top