Seasonal Bidding

Filthaut

Junior Member
Location
Metro Detroit
Hello all...
I need some advice for making a seasonal bid.
We were asked to place a seasonal bid on a small residential subdivision which consists of one street with four courts branching off of it. The total milage for all is a little over 3 miles. We figure it would take about 2 hours for 1 truck with a 7.5 straight blade to complete the job. We dont have to do any of the sidewalks or driveways, just the streets. Upon inspection , it looks like each street could be completed with three passes. We usually place per push bids, so we need a little help doing a seaonal bid. How do you come up with a figure? We were thinking this:
:confused:
1 truck per hour- $85.00
3 hour per job- $170.00
10 pushs per season- $1700.00

Doesn't that sound low??
To give you an idea where we are, we are in Metro Detroit, which the last couple of years seems to have a bubble over us as everyone around us gets snow, but we dont!!
I would appreciate any thoughts & ideas!!
thanks....
Kim Filthaut
 

plowjockey

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Location
Dayton, Ohio USA
Once you figure out approx. time then you find the average of snow events and go from there. You will want to put a cap on the events so if you get over your estimate you will still get compensated. Also you want to remember that little courts can be a bear to back drag.
Does the price need to include salting also?

Bruce
 

Mick

PlowSite.com Veteran
Location
Maine
Using your hourly rate, yes you are too low. $85 x 3hrs is $255 (not $170/2 hrs). Then it would be $2550 for 10 pushes, although I would give a lower amount for a seasonal contract. But you do what your market will bear. There are others on here closer to you who can give better advise in that matter
 

DaveK

Senior Member
We figure it would take about 2 hours for 1 truck
3 hour per job- $170.00
I think you made a typo.

$100 / hr is "normal" around here. But of course there is some variance from county to county as well.

10 pushes per season is a good average to use if the trigger point is 2" If the trigger point is 1 inch, you may have more pushes per season.

The average snowfall for southeastern lower Michigan is 45" (over the last 20 years) And from all predictions I have seen (from many different sources) estimates are slightly above normal snowfall for the 2001 2002 season. Remember that 45" is the average, some winters had much more and some had much less.
 
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75

PlowSite.com Addict
Are you sure three passes with a 7.5' will do the job? Granted, I don't know how narrow the streets are but a 7.5 blade when angled has a "plowing width" of under 7 feet (A Western brochure shows their 7.5' blades having a plowing width when angled of 6' 6", Fisher shows 6' 7") and you'll probably have it at full angle plowing the street.

When determining your average number of snow events, go back quite a ways (say 5 - 10 years) to arrive at a realistic figure. Here in my area, every winter since '97 has been mild with not a lot of snow - until last winter. By around the middle of February, there was more than one contractor effectively working "for nothing", because they figured that winter would be the same as the one before it.
 
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Filthaut

Junior Member
Location
Metro Detroit
3 hour per job- $170.00


Yea... that was a typo... opps...

The quote doesn't include salt. We would be bidding extra for that. Thanks for all your responses... sounds like we are on the right track.

Kim
 

Mick

PlowSite.com Veteran
Location
Maine
I didn't read the original message close enough to realize that the 3 (hrs) was a typo. Didn't realize until it was too late :eek: . For base data regarding snowfall, I use "Weatherbase" which, for the Detroit area, shows a 35 year history with a 41.4" average.
 

thelawnguy

PlowSite.com Addict
Location
Central CT
You should contact your local university and find out how that total breaks down- one 40 inch storm would be different than 40 1 inch storms for example.
 

75

PlowSite.com Addict
Good point Bill - on a similar topic, I was able to get precip records for the town I live in, but they don't specify "snow" or "rain". Back in February we had a bunch of rain for a couple of days (I know 'cause my shop got flooded! :mad: ) as well as snow but the records just show a total figure for the month.
 

DaveK

Senior Member
You should contact your local university and find out how that total breaks down- one 40 inch storm would be different than 40 1 inch storms for example.
Maybe I should have stated it differently. Let's try this: In this area of Michigan, there is an average of 10 plowable snow events of 2" or more. There may be only eight storms dropping more than 2", but two of the storms may require you to plow twice.
 

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