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Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by jcoria, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. jcoria

    jcoria Junior Member
    Messages: 17

    Hello all,

    I'm pretty new to running my plowing business, I have plowed before but never did the salting myself. Always subbed for other people. I have to price a parking lot and the owner wants me to give them a price for sanding. Can someone please explain to me what the difference is between that and regular salting. Thank you
  2. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    In the salting service you apply salt to melt snow and ice.

    By sanding, you have to have a lot of time and extension cords as well as a really large belt or orbital sander to be efficient.
  3. superdog1

    superdog1 Senior Member
    Messages: 257

    In some places, they not only apply just salt or ice melt, but a mix of salt and some type of aggregate like sand or stone dust. It is claimed that by mixing the two, you get a better end result? While I have never used anything but salt or calcium chloride, there are plenty of places on the web that claim a mix is just so much better. I can not substantiate these claims?

    I do know that in the bad winters of 93/94 and again in 95/96, a lot of municipalities ran out of salt with no way to get any more inventory. When that happened, they started using straight sand. I would assume that it helped and was better than nothing? Good luck in finding your answer.:)
  4. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Neither can they.
  5. jhenderson9196

    jhenderson9196 Senior Member
    Messages: 615

    Salt melts ice,sand provides traction on icey surfaces.
  6. jcoria

    jcoria Junior Member
    Messages: 17

    Im guessing that I would have to buy them seperate and mix them? As for the price, this would be more expensive than just salting?
  7. goel

    goel PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,079

    Sometimes poeple refer to sanding, when they are actually talking about salting, so clarify with your customer unless you already have.

    Sanding can also mean:

    Sometimes it's small stone chips.
    Sometimes it's straight sand
    Sometimes it's a mix of sand/salt. This is also reffered to as pickled sand. In the old days, the common mixture was 10/1 (sand/salt). Now, depending on the application, it could be 7/3 or even 50/50 custom mixed.

    Traditionally pickled sand was/is very inexpensive. Locally I can get a ton of the 10/1 for about 30 dollars. Of course you can purchase the same product from a reseller for 80 to 90 dollars a ton also. To Compare, standard white salt runs an average 95 to 125 per ton. These prices are all for picking up 1 ton at a time.
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2011
  8. mpgall26

    mpgall26 Senior Member
    Messages: 228

    $60/yd (arguably 2500ish lbs depending on moisture) for 50/50 in our area and you'll be shocked to see how far a yard will go.
  9. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    For the most part, this has been proven false. Unless the sand is treated. Same goes for salt.