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rock salt freezing up

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by shampoohd, Feb 20, 2014.

  1. shampoohd

    shampoohd Junior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 4

    What temp does wet rock salt freeze?
  2. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    Depends on the moisture content of the salt the wetter it is the warmer it freezes up.
  3. shampoohd

    shampoohd Junior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 4

    Got it-general temps?
  4. Wilnip

    Wilnip Senior Member
    Messages: 592

    Below 32℉. Just kidding. I haven't had trouble until it gets to 20 degrees or below. Most times colder, But once it freezes its gotta go above 32 to thaw.
  5. nepatsfan

    nepatsfan Senior Member
    Messages: 727

    when it gets below 25 I never pre-load but I think it's more like 15-20. Like RLM said moisture content is huge by I would say below 20 it's a good idea to load right before you spread. Although it doesn't really work when it's that cold anyway
  6. shampoohd

    shampoohd Junior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 4

    Great info thx
  7. J&R Landscaping

    J&R Landscaping PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,202

    I have run into an issue even with dryer salt below 16*. That seems to be the magic number this winter.
  8. shampoohd

    shampoohd Junior Member
    from MD
    Messages: 4

    Thank you for your reply
  9. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,236

    This year is bad, salt companies are using up old stockpiles and it is basically crap. I've never had as much frozen salt as this year.

    So far, it has ranged from -11* to +32* for me.

    And the powdery crap is even worse.
  10. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 852

    You mean salt that looks like this? That's what we call end of the bin salt as in that is the last load and it contains some 300# or better chunks. Our shop is heated to 60 and the chunks seem to thaw and break up easily when it warms up - that whole load won't thaw, just the crap on top, it's a PITA using that stuff up.

    Mark, I think at this point I'd take some of that chunky old crap considering the 8 day guess and an empty bin. Seen some food grade salt for sale down in Burnips, nothin like slicing open paper bags of table salt. Big J found some overpriced bulk, you pick it up. But, there's a chance we can still get some off the dock. I don't really care too much at this point, just as soon wash the salt trucks up and get them prepped for Spring if it gets here.

  11. LawnGuy110

    LawnGuy110 Senior Member
    Messages: 196

    depends on if its treated salt as well. I have seen some rock salts that work down to 5 degrees (or so they claim) the most used by us works down to i believe 15 degrees
  12. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,993

    The use of untreated salt or brine becomes ineffective below 14 °F.

    Of course you can't just look at a thermometer, ambient temp and road temp are different.

    Salt (as a solid) technically is already frozen with a melting point of around 1500 degrees F
  13. mike6256

    mike6256 Senior Member
    Messages: 286

    Boy if that isn't the picture from this season :yow!: Had a lot of that as well.
  14. Gus64

    Gus64 Junior Member
    Messages: 17

    I have had the same issues throughout this winter when the temp has dropped below 15 usually at night: we have been placing propane heaters in our salt shed to keep the temp up although that doesn't work right away. And that is correct: some of the salt I have been receiving--'road salt' or 'Peruvian' salt--has been a mess of clumps. Lately, I have been getting the 'white' salt which is drier and cleaner.