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residential snow clearing

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by plowerfinn, Jan 24, 2003.

  1. plowerfinn

    plowerfinn Junior Member
    Messages: 3

    Hey all,

    Its my first post, but i have read alot of everyone elses. I think this is a great forum for ideas, brainstorming, and opinions. its hard to talk to people about snow removal (girlfriend) when they don't care, but here everybody is interested.

    I was just wondering if anyone out there uses full size farm tractors and snowblowers to do residential snow removal, or if it is just a thing around here? If not, how many driveways can you do with a truck and plow per hour?

    I have 3 john deere 5410 tractors with 92 inch blowers and can do 500 driveways in under 4 hours in any storm.

  2. Arc Burn

    Arc Burn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,141

    Well i don't use a farm tractor but i can tell you not to waste your time with any truck when your doing 500 drives in 4 hours!
  3. gslam88

    gslam88 Senior Member
    Messages: 168

    Could that be a typo and you mean 50 driveways in 4 hours
  4. DanG

    DanG Senior Member
    Messages: 240

    Near the one driveway i have left over in Albany(In Loudonville) there's a guy who uses one to do his.

    He has a good size Case tractor (60+HP) with a cab on it.Doesn't have a blower on it, Has a 8-9' blade on the front and a box blade on the rear.
    He does them quickly, and can stack the snow like crazy with the front blade.

  5. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    That's like 28 seconds per driveway,or just over 2 driveways per minute.Not including any travel time.I have a hard time believing that one.
  6. DanG

    DanG Senior Member
    Messages: 240

    I kinda figured it was a typo also :D

    Wish I could do 125 driveways in an hour myself.:)


    If I count each of the carports at the condo's i do as a "driveway"
    I think i'm ahead of him.There's 100+ and it takes me 1/2-3/4 hr for a3-6" storm to clear them.

  7. Rob

    Rob PlowSite.com Veteran
    Messages: 306

    I thought that was kind of high, but has 3 tractors going so that is approx 160 per tractor, making them each do about 40 an hour. With a 92" blower (almost 8') he only has to make one pass per drive. Sounds do-able to me, but must be really moving ! Very impressive, no way truck will touch that. IMO
  8. DanG

    DanG Senior Member
    Messages: 240

    I went back and read it again:eek:
    He's got 3 tractors going

    works out to about 41 drives an hour per tractor.


    Last edited: Jan 24, 2003
  9. wyldman

    wyldman Member
    Messages: 3,265

    I just noticed the 3 tractors too,but it still must be a typo or something.

    It would still be less than a minute and a half per driveway,or 40 driveways an hour per tractor,they must be awfully small driveways,and really close together !
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2003
  10. Sno

    Sno Senior Member
    Messages: 320

    John Deere dealer maybe?

  11. plowerfinn

    plowerfinn Junior Member
    Messages: 3


    well, by the response you all gave, i guess thats a no to using tractors.

    I will break it down to clear the confusion up.

    each tractor has 160 residential homes per route. each route has both single and double driveways. a single driveway is one car wide and two or three cars deep, and a double driveway is the same with two cars wide.

    Of course you have the big fancy drives and the circle drives too, but lets not confuse the matter. (there are not enough to matter.)

    so with a blower on the back, all you have to do is reverse into the driveway, drop the inversed blower (which means you drive forward while blowing the snow, infact you are pulling the snow out and blowing it on the lawn at the same time.)

    You then back up the drive to get the last 2 feet , and your off to the next house. Usually you have many homes on one street and in one area, and the homes that are too far out of your way, you let someone else do.

    some of my competitors have fleets of 40, 50 and 70 tractors.

    I had a feeling snow removal like this is unique to this area, and it is not done like this anywhere else in the wolrd on such a grand format.

  12. Arc Burn

    Arc Burn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,141

    I think it would take me a week to drive a tractor around to all my driveways:D
  13. gordyo

    gordyo Senior Member
    Messages: 527

    I use a 6' Lorenz on a John Deere 1070. I have never seen a inversed snowblower. If you could, please post a picture of your tractor with the blower.
  14. Bonzai

    Bonzai Member
    Messages: 57

    Hi Plowerfinn, I used to work in Montreal for a company in Dollard,Point Claire area called Ricks Snow Removal. We did at least 150 houses per tractor and it only took me 2.5 hours on my route for a 6 inch snow fall. My Route was 135 drives, my bosses was bigger and we would meet in the middle.The route was also very tight, some times 10 drives on a street. We used John Deere 210s with 8 foot scaper blades with down-pressure on the back. They were great to work in. We did close to 3000 driveways in 5 square kilometres. Not much travel time there as you can see. lots of other trucks and tractors as well. It was great fun doing snow over there. Biggest snow fall I did there was 22 inches and it only took 20 hours from start to finish. That amount of snow here in Toronto would keep us busy for 3 days.
  15. SDlawndawg

    SDlawndawg Senior Member
    Messages: 139

    Inversed blower?

    There's a few around my area but they are on trailers and have to be hauled to each job and unloaded. Mostly landscape co's. Seems it would be easier and more profitable if they put plows on their trucks. They seem to leave a pile of snow in front of the garage doors too.
  16. gslam88

    gslam88 Senior Member
    Messages: 168

    SO what you guys are saying is that I can't match or beet 160 driveways an hour with my high performance supersonic snow removal system???
    Last edited: Mar 15, 2007
  17. Arc Burn

    Arc Burn PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,141

    Now hang on,nobody said you couldn't,but you may want to look into getting a inversed model thats all:p
  18. Pelican

    Pelican 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,075

    Picture this:

    gslam is running along behind his high tech snow gizmo, trying to keep up with the competition. He's coming to the end of a long pass, hits a big crack in the pavement and....
  19. gslam88

    gslam88 Senior Member
    Messages: 168

    Hey Pelican,

    Keep it up wise guy.... and I just may run up your way with the new plow and start taking your customers from you........
    You would be backing up and I am off to the next customer.... I figure around 16 to 18 sec a customer to do the job right... no need to rush.... and take you how long to do a cusotmer??????

    ROFLMAO with your response though......
  20. farmertim

    farmertim Member
    Messages: 95

    And I thought I had the coolest equipment on the site!!
    Last year (2001) 2 days after Thanksgiving we got 2 feet of wet snow on mud.
    It had been in the 50's all week and wham.
    I didn't even have my push frame on my pick up yet so all I had was my 100 hp tractor loader bucket & V plow for 93 drives the route is 45 miles long not counting distance within the drives themselves.
    3 16hr days with the V plow to open everybody up, 3 16 hr days to clean out the rest of the snow with the loader bucket.
    8 days later it was all gone right back to 50 till christmas.
    This guys got me beat I'd say, good show, keep up the good work!