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Predictions for the 2011-12 season before it happened

Discussion in 'Weather' started by grandview, Mar 8, 2012.

  1. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

  2. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,069

    Borrowed this from Accuwrong

  3. cjwoz

    cjwoz Senior Member
    from CHICAGO
    Messages: 134

    How in hell hell was every weather guy WRONG about this winter!!! WTF happened?
  4. unit28

    unit28 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,634

    New guy at the climate prediction center, forgot to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit

    on a side note, the big snowmobile race is this weekend,
    temps in the mid 50's....again.
  5. neplow

    neplow Junior Member
    Messages: 28

    in what other occupation are you still paid, even when you dont do your job correctly and fail miserably?
  6. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

  7. Herm Witte

    Herm Witte Senior Member
    Messages: 595

    I think we were reminded this winter of whom is in control. :)
  8. bluerage94

    bluerage94 Senior Member
    Messages: 398

    What a joke...:laughing:
  9. pooleo8

    pooleo8 Senior Member
    Messages: 271

    I dont mind that the weather guy is wrong ALL the time. What I do mind is the HYPE! Everytime just a little snowfall comes, they make it sound like the end of the world. Dang that pisses me off!

    FISHERBOY Senior Member
    Messages: 542

    2011-12 winter

    I'll try to answer this the best i can, alot of pro mets were counting on a -NAO -AO like last season (google for more info) which sets up a blocking pattern over the eastern U.S ,cold & snow.

    The main reason we had the winter or lack of :cry: was a very strong pacific jet stream, and a 2nd year la nina. That when the cold air did visit it was of pacific origin, not from the arcrtic, with a strong pacific jet stream, it would get cold for 2-3 days then move out,(sound familiar) meaning a very progressive pattern the cold could not lock in.
    It did get cold, in alsaka they had record snow, and the extreme cold and snow dumped into europe.
  11. unit28

    unit28 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,634

    ummm, we had the same jet stream as from last year. noting the 2nd gen La Ninia
    This is not only the warmest season but it's also the driest.

    Our cold fronts were , uh well.. they were.cold enough to support snow
    Yet we were not as cold due to the +AO, But still more times than not.... cold enough
    We had many cold fronts throughout the season albeit, many were cold occluded

    The jet stream was weaker this year in terms of available moisture
    The precipitation dbz values were not as prolific.
    It was very common last year to observe dbz units of at least....... 28Units
    This year, hardly an Nth above .01 was observed on average during the 11-12 storm systems

    Getting into a li'l bit of dendristic values, the snow wasn't as fluffy which makes the ratio of liquid to snow smaller unless you're in an LES or high elevation MT region.

    yep, I googled..... everything.....:nod:

    Last edited: Mar 9, 2012
  12. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,069

    So what will Summer be like?
  13. gotsnow?

    gotsnow? Senior Member
    Messages: 257

    summer will probably unseasonably cold and snowy....

    FISHERBOY Senior Member
    Messages: 542

    With an el nino coming on now, it could be warm and dry, ughhhhhhhhhhhhh
  15. blowerman

    blowerman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,275

    You aren't kidding... We just need to roll with it!
  16. Cover Guy

    Cover Guy Senior Member
    Messages: 224

    Didn’t John Dee predict that winter would not be that snowy
  17. dfd9

    dfd9 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,475

    Amen and Amen.

    I find it rather humorous that this was supposed to be a La Nina and pretty much just the opposite happened.

    Seems like every time man thinks he has something figured out, God decides to change it to show Who is in charge.

    Remember after Katrina, how many hurricanes were going to happen? Cat 4 & 5 every year, multiple storms a year even. And just look at who stopped predicting hurricanes Dr Gray, the preeminent hurricane specialist, supposedly. Said it was too difficult and he had been too wrong the past 5 years so he is giving it up.

    I know that I can take comfort knowing whatever happens, is what is good and right for me. I might not understand it, but it is.
  18. cubicinches

    cubicinches PlowSite.com Addict
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  19. Turf Commando

    Turf Commando Senior Member
    Messages: 567

    Weather men uses hype to keep you interested in the news..! I knew they'd be wrong I was mowing in November....lol
  20. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,069

    NOAA has been the best and Accuwrong the worst. Eg. Back in January we were suppose to get a dusting. Got 5". February, they said 5-6" we got less than a dusting and I melted the next morning.