Plowing condos

Discussion in 'Business Fundamentals' started by Green7650, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. Green7650

    Green7650 Junior Member
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    Need some suggestions.. we do snow removal on condos and villas. In a 2 inch snowfall we do roughly 400 drives in one night. Each villa has 30-50 drives in each complex. In the past we have used skidsteers with kage plows and walker lawn mowers (with cabs). Just trying to get other ways to speed up the process. With the skid steer u have to back drag the drive to the road and then push up in the grass. I hate doing this because u touch the snow twice.. the walkers work really well because u just divide the drive in half and push into yard. Only downfall is no heated cab and they don’t do well with 6 inch plus snows (we get about 3-5 of them per year). Just trying to see what other options I have... thanks guys
     
  2. m_ice

    m_ice 2000 Club Member
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    Inverted blower...back blade
     
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  3. SnowFakers

    SnowFakers Senior Member
    from CT
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    Tractor with a blower I would bet is the fastest way to get it done, that is a lot of driveways.
     
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  4. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Fanatic
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    first place I ever plowed we did a bunch of condoplexs

    we had pull plows behind pickups. First year or two of plowing snow, I never even had a plow on the front of the truck I was in. Just dragging drives every snow.

    We worked in teams with trucks that had front blades or skidloaders with push boxes.

    Once I saw an inverted blower in action... we were doing it all wrong. o_O
     
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  5. OP
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    Green7650

    Green7650 Junior Member
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    Thanks guys. Just trying to speed the process up with less guys. I’m leaning toward the inverted snowblower. Was wondering if it’s the best option
     
  6. m_ice

    m_ice 2000 Club Member
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    No question...it is the best option you just have to have the work to justify it which it appears you do.
    I'd probably pick up a back blade just in case something happens to the tractor.
     
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  7. BrianQ68

    BrianQ68 Junior Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 4

    What is the difference between an inverted blower and a snow blower mounted to a skid steer. After using a toolcat with a snow blower to do a small condo, i bought a blower for my JD 328 and rented 2 Bobcats with blowers.Just curious, if there's a difference or just 2 ways of saying the same thing?
     
  8. cjames808

    cjames808 Senior Member
    from SE WI
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    Inverted hangs off the arse end. You back in and drop her.
     
  9. prezek

    prezek Senior Member
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    Check out some of the threads on this site or some videos. Pretty crazy how quick some of the guys with tight routes get through their drives.
     
  10. BrianQ68

    BrianQ68 Junior Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 4

    I would think, a blower on the front would do a better job. When it's on the rear you have to drive over the snow first. I don't know where you guys plow but here, when you drive over snow it packs down and is very hard to remove.
    Thanks for quick replies, I'll take a look at videos...
     
  11. Unraveller

    Unraveller Senior Member
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    There's a thread, about 110 pages long, dedicated to showing it's the best way to do it. Very large, soft tires have such low PSI, that anything you push down, scrapes up pretty well.
     
  12. Herm Witte

    Herm Witte Senior Member
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    When you use a plow, front or rear, you ride over the snow first. An inverted snowblower seems to float over cracks and rough surfaces while the front mount seems to catch more. The inverted is the best commercial tool for driveways that I have ever used. I've been at it full time for a long time.
     
  13. OP
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    Green7650

    Green7650 Junior Member
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    Herm witte. This seems to be my best option moving forward. Labor is gonna get harder
    To find. Thanks Guys
     
  14. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite Veteran
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    look at the pics of the inverted blower with the blade that drops down to scrape behind the blower
     
  15. seville009

    seville009 PlowSite.com Addict
    from CNY
    Messages: 1,818

    An inverted blower has an edge on it that drops down and lets you drag snow forward, so you can back up to a garage door, drop the edge, and pull the snow away from the door before engaging the blower from what I’ve seen

    with a skidsteer blower, you will always leave a little berm of snow in front of the blower as you’re going forward, so once you reach the garage, you have to go sideways to get rid of it.
     
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  16. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Fanatic
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    An inverted blower is a mating of a drag box and and a snowblower is the best way I can describe it. Drag it out, then engage the pto when you are at a good spot to launch it.
     
  17. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    You think wrong.

    What do you do about the snow that gets pushed in front of the blower?

    OP....why do you hate yourself?
     
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  18. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth Senior Member
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    We have two Ag tractors with inverted blowers. It’s a great solution as long as you have room to manoeuvre and large lawns to blow the snow onto. Unfortunately for us, the majority of our condo groups don’t fit into that scenario. We do around 1200 driveways every 1”+ event, only about half work with the tractors. That said, our tractors are 110hp and 140hp, so pretty large to bring with. Where they do work, they dominate.
     
  19. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth Senior Member
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    A few years ago we fabbed up a hydraulic arm with a cutting edge to back drag on the front of a conventional snow blower. This unit was on a skid steer. You would approach the driveway head-on, blow snow to the sides while working towards the garage door, then lower the arm and back drag the bit of snow left in front of the garage door. I thought the system was great, but the operators didn’t like the controls. There was a huge time savings once a snow event reached 4” or more. We only get 8-12 of those events a year. Unfortunately, The operator kept reverting back to a bucket so we eventually sold it.
     
  20. Meezer

    Meezer Senior Member
    from Indiana
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    We use Hiniker C Plows for drives.