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Planning to make a second go at plowing.

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by ajcoop20, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Hey guys, my name is adam, I plowed 2 winters ago with my current truck, but was un prepared, despite that i made 10K plowing freelance without getting any contracts. My truck wasnt quite ready in that it ended up having a bad fan clutch and was getting warmer than Id like it. Truck is a 05 dodge 2500 CTD, full billet suncoast trans, intake, exhaust, programmer, pretty standard stuff. Plow was a 8' western pro plow straight blade on an ultramount with the nighhawk lights and the hand held remote.

    Im taking this year off to try and learn the business better and not just drive around and waste fuel.

    I sold the old plow set up except for the mount. So im going to be looking for some sort of western plow in the coming months.

    my goals are to turn my truck into the ultimate reliable plowing machine, upgrading suspension etc, i already have carli ball joints in the front and greaseable ujoints in it. Im thinking probably going with a carli progressive rate front springs to handle a 8.5' plow be it MVP or a regular straight blade (something im looking for opinions on).

    Also interested in looking info on how guys in the midwest (chicago area) do thier billing and estimating as well.

    Basically im taking a step back and trying to do this the right way, for a one man band to be as profitable as possible. I do plan on getting a salter as well. I would prefer to do my own contracts, but i have the option to plow for the city here at 55-60/hr which i believe to be a little low.

    Thanks for reading and I look forward to your comments and suggestions

  2. thelettuceman

    thelettuceman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,218

    You could always sub and learn some things that way. Good Luck
  3. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Thanks for the reply. I thought about subbing bit there isnt a whole lot of that goin pn in my area unless its for the city. I did sub for one 8inchto storm in the past and got burned. 700$ for 24a hours worth of work so im a little leary of that
  4. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    if going buy a 8.5 v plow few more dollars buy the 9.6 MVP I run on a stock F350 dually with np at all I get 75 per hr on my hourly contacts
  5. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,257

    there is a big weight difference from the 8'6" to the 9'6". the 9 is also higher..
  6. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Im not sure o want to hang a 9'6good off the truck we have a lot of alleyways and such and i thimk a 8'6 would be more versitile and easier on parts wouldn't it?
  7. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Pardon my grammar please. This smart phone insists on making me look like an idiot
  8. big_stroker

    big_stroker Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    Keep in might they measure plows straight across.

    8'6" V plow is 8'6" across, 7′ 5″ at full angle, 7′ 7″ full V and 7′ 1″ in scoop

    9'6" V plow is 9'6" across, 8′ 3″ at full angle, 8′ 7″ full V and 7′ 11″ in scoop

    Also Western and Fisher use the same mounts
  9. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    I was not aware that fisher uses the same mounts? My truck has an ultramount on it, what fisher lines is it comparable with, from prices i see fisher seems to be extremly expensive, more so than western even. Im thinking probably another western or a boss as they seem to be the most popular and easiest to get parts for in this area.
  10. big_stroker

    big_stroker Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    Fisher calls theirs the Minute Mount 2

    Western and Fisher and Blizzard are all the same parent company and the Western MVP and the Fisher ExtreamV have a LOT of the same parts and similarities

    IMO I would never own a Boss even if parts are easy to get.

    Watch these 2 Videos One is Fisher vs Boss the other is Western vs Boss its about the same video because they are about the same plows.

    Fisher Vs Boss
    Western Vs Boss
  11. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    THANKS A LOT STROKER~!, wow that mvp is a bad mo fo. Now i just need to find a good price on one. It seems like a lot of guys around here run 8.5 straights with wings. which would be better for doin small lots (1-2 acres) and driveways.
  12. big_stroker

    big_stroker Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    If i had the money I would have a Fisher or Western V.

    You can break drives open a lot better and scoop for cleanup a lot better than a straight.

    Its all about how much you want to spend.
  13. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    thats exactly it, i can get a (just cold calling no haggeling) a 8' pro plow ultra mount with me installing it for like 4900+ tax here in town, im sure i can find it cheaper if i look around or pay cash somewhere. My time frame may also move up a bit, as my buddy called me and asked if id help him out this year. I rarely felt under plowed with my old 8 ultra, exept in one large 8-9acre lot where i didnt have the ability to move snow easily where i wanted it. I can see a straight being better for back dragging and being more reliable if im plowing municiple streets.
  14. big_stroker

    big_stroker Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    Remember to tell places when you call you dont need the truck mount. Usually will knock the price down a bit.
  15. plowman4life

    plowman4life Senior Member
    Messages: 557

    yeah if you are going to get a western you dont need the truck side mount. if you get a MVP make sure you have the proper wire harness. as there are four kinds. 4 port 3 plug system, 4 port 2 plug system, 3 port 3 plug, and 3 port 2 plug.

    if you buy a fisher you will most likely need everything. except maybe the wire harness if its compatable with the plow you want then it will work. make sure you figure out what harness you have and what harness each of the plows you are looking for need. but you will need the mounts for this as a fisher and western are not compatable with the mounting system niether is blizzard.
  16. big_stroker

    big_stroker Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    I thought fisher and western had the same truck side mount but just different push plates that come on and off the mount on the the truck.
  17. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    I have zero wiring at the moment, i sold everything from my old set up EXCEPT the mount because they guy was trying to put it on a chevy truck and the mount wouldnt work. So i basically need everything but that, From what i gather from the search button on here is the older iso boxes were 4 port 3 wire, and newer ones are 3port 3 wire, and either will work assuming i get the proper style box and the proper wiring kit, which from westerns site i need an hb5 light wire kit. Can anyone give me some insight on what is a fair price for the plows ive listed "new" in your areas so i have SOME basis to go and haggle with.
  18. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,797

    Are you sure about that?
  19. big_stroker

    big_stroker Senior Member
    Messages: 102

    From what I have seen Fisher and Western use the same mounts on the truck but different push plates that go into the mounts.

    I have a Fisher mount on my truck but then I have the Western Uni-mount conversion kit. I would think if they weren't the same base mount then that wouldn't work.

    Maybe I'm wrong.
  20. ajcoop20

    ajcoop20 Senior Member
    Messages: 117

    Just oicked up a 8'6 mvp today with everything fot 3 k in near mint shape lol