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Pet Friendly Salt

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Hambrick & Co., Dec 29, 2007.

  1. Hambrick & Co.

    Hambrick & Co. PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,350

    Has anyone purchased or used pet friendly salt? I have several customers requesting that I use pet friendly salt on their drives and walks. I am not familiar with this type of salt. Any additional information about this topic would be great. Thanks
  2. carcrz

    carcrz Senior Member
    Messages: 295

    salt is a natural mineral. It's the special blends that you need to watch.
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    All ice melts even the "pet friendly" ones can harm your pets feet.
    Some not as much as others but they all can.

    It is like making Icream.
    When you add chemicals or salt to melt ice it actually gets colder as it is melting.
    It can get cold enough to hurt your pets feet.
    (frostbite)or chemical burns.
  4. Plowin in VT

    Plowin in VT Senior Member
    Messages: 233

    I use "pet friendly" ice melt on one customer's walk. This stuff is NOT cheap, and depending on where you get it, and how much you buy, you are looking at spending at least $0.60 - $1.00/lb! This is not something that you would want to use in a spreader, but should do it by hand (so that you can control how much or little you put down). I charge an additional $35 per time for pet friendly, and that's for a tiny 14' walkway.

    Go to your local pet food store (PetCo, PetSmart, etc...), they sell this stuff. I haven't had much luck getting it anywhere else.

  5. Clapper&Company

    Clapper&Company PlowSite Veteran
    from NE OHIO
    Messages: 4,413

    You could use something with more Potash in it.
  6. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    I use Safe-Step....

    $23.50 for 40 pounds......


    I don't know....

    It melts the ice...

    The wife is happy....

    The puppy is safe...I hope

    It ain't cheappayup
  7. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    Good info....

    Had not thought about the temperature aspect....

    Only the chemical.....

  8. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,194

    From personal expeirience from my own dogs, salt doesn't bother them much but I used calcium chloride once and my dogs started dancing around and holding their paws up.
  9. Oasis

    Oasis Senior Member
    Messages: 273

    I know the salt may irritate their paws a bit but that doesnt seem to do any damage. However I have customers that are concerned about there dogs actually eating the salt. I know my dog likes to lick my jacket when I get home from salting so i have to keep it away from her.

    Try this stuff.... http://www.safepaw.com/
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2007
  10. Magic Salt is pet friendly. It won't burn the pets paws. We sell it to the local animal protection kennel and a pet shop. They both use it and sell it. And my dog runs around our shop and plays in it...The liquid is a buffer and changes when it becomes a brine..thats kinda why it is..
  11. andrewlawnrangr

    andrewlawnrangr Senior Member
    Messages: 339

    An ex custromer of mine is involved with safepaw... they were cheap. extreemly cheap. i was supposed to salt their nighbors drive but then they cam over with some safe paw and that cust said can u use the stuff my neighbor gave me and still charge me just for plowing... i was like what the F but i guess it works..

    sorry for the rant
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2007
  12. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,194

    Dude. Just say they were really cheap. It is offensive!!
  13. T-MAN

    T-MAN PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,363

    I second the Magic salt for critters paws.
    If you market it right you could have a nice niche for residential.
  14. Oasis

    Oasis Senior Member
    Messages: 273

    I am assuming that either the poster or admin removed that comment and I am really glad that I didnt read it. This site has great integrity and I hope that it is kept that way.
  15. Hambrick & Co.

    Hambrick & Co. PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,350

    Thanks everyone for your input. I was only able to find the Safe-Paw on the web just wanted to make sure there wasn't something else out there that I may have missed. Thanks again.
  16. SnowMelt2006

    SnowMelt2006 Member
    Messages: 68

    Safe Step = sodium/potassium
    Safe Paw = urea

    If you don't want to use salt, use either potassium or urea.

    Calcium/Magnesium chloride will draw the moisture from the paws and will cause burning.
  17. derekbroerse

    derekbroerse 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    I have been using Lanscaper's Choice (www.kissner.com) on the sidewalks this year at the animal hospital. No complaints so far. Costs me $14.40/50lb bag and I only need about half a bag to do it. Regular Sifto Salt on the parking lot.

    Landscaper's Choice is Calcium Magnesium Acetate, claims to be safe for children and pets, and I can tell you from experience you can spread this with your bare hands and not feel a thing, and not end up all shrivelled up like a prune afterwards like salt.

    Honestly, I've been really pleased with the stuff! Urea is over $20 per 50lb bag here. Alaskan Ice Melt is around $26 for the same amount. Sand is too messy. This has been my solution for small quantity spreading, also supposed to be easy on concrete and vegetation.
  18. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,194

    Landscapers Choice is mostly rock salt and I think magnesium chloride. It contains less then 1 % CMA. We've used it in the past on properties that specifiy it and liked the product. I will try and find the exact %'s of that product.
  19. SnowMelt2006

    SnowMelt2006 Member
    Messages: 68

    Here is a comparisons/lab results for the magical product....Landscaper's Choice.

    You be the judge.

    Attached Files:

  20. derekbroerse

    derekbroerse 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,377

    I don't recall ever saying it was magical, i kinda wish it was!

    Those results don't look very favorable at all. Yet I can tell you for being mostly rock salt it doesn't bother my hands what so ever. I can only assume a dog's paws would be the same, right? Not that it matters really I guess if they have to walk across the salted parking lot to reach the sidewalk....!!!

    I also know that the product keeps really well and I have never had a clumpy bag.

    So what is the solution? Straight Urea is too expensive, am I better off blending my own mix of salt and urea with a scoop of sand thrown in to provide grit? Does Urea clump up like salt does? I'm assuming so, and I'm assuming any blend I make will do the same.

    In which case, as long as there are no complaints, I'm probably just as well off with the Landscapers Choice... even if it seems overpriced for its contents.