For those guys debating to go out on their own, a word of advise...DONT! lol. Between finding good help, dependable guys, handeling a few "its getting deep" calls, trying to explain that we were already there at 6am and now that its been snowing at a rate of 2-3" an hr. why their lot looks like no one has been there at 9am, I'm ready to go back and just be a sub or crew leader. Between paying sidewalk guys 20 bucks an hour (which I finally found some good guys) and paying the driver's, buying salt and repairs to equipment, I think I made more money just being a sub.