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Opinions on bidding?

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by Cloyd LLC, Nov 6, 2012.

  1. Cloyd LLC

    Cloyd LLC Junior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 3

    I have been in business for a few years but I still say I am a newbie to snow plowing, therefore I am asking for any advice that anyone cares to give. This property is Indiana and I hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes here if your in my area bidding on the same property.

    The pic attached is a Earth Google view of this apartment complex.

    ~Trigger is 2 inches
    ~NO salt or shoveling as the apartment maint. crew will shovel and salt all walkways.
    ~The bid will include plowing during any event and clean up after cars have moved after the event each time - so yes, I see more time with cleaning up sometimes with a larger complex.
    ~all road ways in the photo are the properties.

    I was thinking of bidding this along the lines of $750per event up to 6inches. This would include following up with a clean up a few hours after the initial to ensure that we have attempted to clean up areas where cars are parked. Mgt. said they understand that we will only show up once after for a clean up within 12 hours after the initial.

    I understand that time will vary depending on which truck I use in my fleet but I am looking at a base price to judge if I am too low! I do NOT want to be one of those contractors that do it for cheap (regardless if I do an excellent job) and then I ruin the market for my area because I am going too low. On the other hand, I am no trying to be the highest either.

    I want to thank everyone in advance for any advice. This is my first post and hope to communicate more here since I have been looking at the boards the last few months and most people are polite and helpful here.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    Last edited: Nov 6, 2012
  2. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    Hope your missing a few numbers in that bid.
  3. Cloyd LLC

    Cloyd LLC Junior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 3

    I am assuming that I am pretty low then....I figured I needed some help with this.

    I have been dealing with mainly smaller lots and I just did not want to screw this up.
  4. Plowtoy

    Plowtoy Senior Member
    Messages: 929

    Are you a one man show?? That's a lot of area for ONE truck. I would think at least a loader and a push box
  5. Cloyd LLC

    Cloyd LLC Junior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 3

    I have 3 trucks and a bob cat. I thought about sending two trucks each time.
  6. BC Handyman

    BC Handyman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,943

    I would send 2 trucks & your bobcat, do you own a pusher for the skid? I'd recommend using a pusher/box on the skid.
  7. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,781

    The thing that bothers me is that you may have to clean up after their shoveler/blowers. A lot of the time control of the site operations for snow makes it cost effective, with someone else doing a portion, there is always spillover that cost you to save them. I think you're way low.
  8. Raymond S.

    Raymond S. Senior Member
    Messages: 513

    Run away, don't walk. I don't think you're even close. Not trying to be a dick but I think this is going to drown you. A bad winter and you may never want to plow again. If you have to ask, it's probably not a good idea. A large lot like this isn't like a small or even somewhat large commercial building. If you screw up a bid on a lot that takes a couple hours, you live and learn. If you screw up a bid on an apt. complex it can sink you.
    For the record, I wouldn't clean up this site for $750 let alone plow it and come back later for cleanup.
  9. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    Think you need add 500/800 to it
    there a lot on dragging car spots
    Looks like you have to carry the snow long ways to pile it up
    I guess all depends where they will let you pile the snow
    Good luck
  10. IDST

    IDST Senior Member
    Messages: 973

    IMO your price is way to low. With all the sidewalks blocking where you can put snow two truck just won't work out in your favor. Not saying it can't be done but you will need a skid there for sure.
  11. thelettuceman

    thelettuceman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,218

    Welcome to the Forums ... Glad you ask before you signed the contract .... I agree with Grandview ... You are missing some numbers .... That is a 4 digit bid for each snow removal .... Double your price and then some ..... Good Luck
  12. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

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  13. DeSnowman

    DeSnowman Member
    Messages: 50

    I would bid 3500. Do you have to salt the road way?:gunsfiring:
  14. ryde307

    ryde307 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,145

    Do you have any more info. Where can the snow go?
    How many sq ft approx is the area to be plowed?
    if you have a skid I would want it there.
    Do you have other work near by?
    How committed are your 2 trucks and skid now?
  15. ryde307

    ryde307 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,145

    What amount of snow does Indiana get?
  16. Sawboy

    Sawboy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,700

    Personally......I'd bid that at $2,500 with the idea the property will try and negotiate down. No less than 2k in my mind.

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,362

    Holy expensive batman:eek:

    I'd say you're low. Did you submit a bid? Did you get it? How much? and has it snowed yet to see if you are good or not?