New truck question

Hoopsfan

Junior Member
Location
Michigan
I'm in the market for my first new truck. Been looking at the GMC 2500 and the F250. I'm leaning toward the F250, but need some advise on what engine to get, gas or diesel. I plan on plowing in the winter and pulling mower equipment in the summer.

All info on the pros and cons of each engine would be appreciated.

Thanks
Hoopsfan
 

cat320

2000 Club Member
Location
stoneham,ma
well I would go for the diesel.
1. If your gonna keep the truck for a long time
2. It has great mileage
3. It will pull great with all that low end tourque
4.Less maintanece on it
5. it will push snow with no problem at all.

The bigest thing is the up front cost.I have both a a 7.3 and a 6.5 both seam to be doing great for me i think the ford has more power but I have not taken out a duramax.
 

Pelican

2000 Club Member
The Ford also has a beefier front end than the Chevy, the same axle is used under the front of the F-550, which is rated for 17,500 lbs.

I've had gas trucks before, but the last 3 and all future trucks will be diesel. You can't beat them for the amount of work they'll do. Up front casts are high, but payback is in better fuel milage and less downtime. My diesels have never let me down.

By the way, Welcome to Plowsite!
 

plowking35

2000 Club Member
Location
SE CT
Many people are under the assumption that the GM IFS is not as strong as the solid front axel found under the Ford, that simply isnt the truth, the IFS is in fact rated to carry more weight than both the F-250 and F-350.
The same axel is used in the 250 and 350, but not the same as used in the 450/550. Might be the same housing but not the same internals.
Dino
 

Pelican

2000 Club Member
Originally posted by plowking35
The same axel is used in the 250 and 350, but not the same as used in the 450/550. Might be the same housing but not the same internals.
Dino
I did a side by side comparison between my '01 F-350 SRW and '02 F-550 and most of the parts are identical between the two axles, even carrying the same casting numbers.

The passenger side tie rod end is different for some reason, the gears are different (4.88s are not available in the 250 & 350), the 550's brakes and hubs are bigger, understandably. All other parts appear to be the same.The housings are identical, and isn't this what is carrying the weight?
 

Brickman

Senior Member
Location
south east WY
Go with a diesel, and don't go GM. I get 8 and 9 mpg pulling between 24,000 lbs and 29,000 lbs gross weight of cars behind my truck. Unless the wind is blowing I can run right along at 75. A sharp enough hill will drag it back some too. A friend has a sick.5 GM diesel, his truck never even dreams of keeping up with my PS.
 

Got Grass?

Senior Member
Location
Western New York
All depends on what you plan on pulling in the summer months.
Get what you need for that. A diesel will tow more, no doubt.

For the winter months & plowing a Diesel engine will weigh more & put more stress on the front end.
As far as I am concerned for plowing who really cares how much tourque or HP the truck has. It's the traction you need to worry about.

Personally I'd love to know when someone ran out of power before traction. When all 4 get spinning Ya better be on pavement.
 

Brickman

Senior Member
Location
south east WY
There is a guy around here that plows with a small Jeep. Older one with the removable sides and top for summer. He plows a lot of very small stuff. Duplexes, and 4 plexes. So yes traction is key, and I am sure his truck doesn't weigh all that much. His small rig is perfect for what he does.
 

Pelican

2000 Club Member
For the winter months & plowing a Diesel engine will weigh more & put more stress on the front end
It also provides weight for added traction! The rate that diesels build torque is much smoother than gas which helps greatly in applying the right amount of power to prevent spinning.

With my old gas pickup, I had to carry a can of CRC to dry the wires on damp days, and often fine powdery snow would get sucked through the radiator and blown on the ignition, shorting it out. That doesn't happen with the diesel. You do have to be sure to run quality fuel in the winter though, poor fuel will gel at temps under 25 and shut you down.
 

ChicagoSnow

Senior Member
Location
Chicago, IL.
Be sure to go diesel..................Ford diesel that is!

My fleet consists of 6 Ford F-250/350's power strokes.......always ready to work.

Stay away from the Chevy torsion front end............it cannot be "built up" enough to hold up a 800#+ plow with any satisfaction! And the front disk brakes.........another story for another day. Trust me, I just sold THE LAST chevy truck (1999 3500 4x4 dump) I will ever own in May.

You live and learn!

ChicagoSnow
 

ADLAWNCUTTERS

Senior Member
Location
BUFFALO,N.Y.
i have been plowing for over 20 years. i have been there done that. as you heard in buffalo we have been getting snow in feet over the last 2 winters. step up to the plate and buy the ford diesel you will not be sorry .i own 3 f-350's. diesel's , i will NEVER buy a gas engine for plowing.gas engines are junk next to the diesel. trust me on this one.good luck.
 
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