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N.E. Blizzard dealer-anyone buying new this year?

Discussion in 'Blizzard Plows Discussion' started by Detroitdan, Sep 29, 2006.

  1. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    If anyone here is buying a new Blizzard this year, you may want to check out Portsmouth Ford in NH. I just saw their ad in the Want Advertiser, they are selling 810s for $4495 installed, price good through October 31, 06. That seems like a heck of a good price to me. I don't know what you guys are paying, but that's cheaper than a Fisher Extreme V plow. They also carry Fisher, I don't know how good the Fisher prices are because I havent compared them in a long time, but definitely worth looking into if you're ready to buy. Plus, no sales tax in NH. According to the ad they say they are the #1 Blizzard dealer in the USA. Don't know if that's true, but they definitely can beat the little guy prices. email is plows@portford.com, phone is 603-957-3222.
    BTW, I am NOT affiliated with them in any way, (in fact I'm a born Ford-hater), I just wanted to pass on this ad I saw that sounded like a good price to me, maybe save somebody from paying too much.
  2. jeffw

    jeffw Senior Member
    Messages: 107

    its a great price they move a million of them but they are givin them away. good for us payup

    now the bad side is watch the install ive seen some poor work on that end. missing bolts wires not tied ect. just sloppy not my way of prefrence fopr an install.

  3. Joe D

    Joe D Senior Member
    Messages: 605

    I paid 3800 or 3900 2 years ago for my 810. If the price didn't go up much they still make maybe a few hundred on the sale and 500 on the install. They are easy to install and if you do them all day you will get even faster.
  4. ram1500

    ram1500 Member
    from ma
    Messages: 41

    The initial money you save by buying there will be lost in the long run because they will not open in the middle of the night like your small local dealer will. Most small local dealers will fix your plows during snowstorms. Dealer service is the key not cheap prices.
  5. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    I bought my plow used, private sale and installed it by myself. I've gone to the "small local dealer" once for repair and I go to the big low-priced dealer to buy parts. If a small local dealer doesn't want to work on your plow because you didn't buy it from him, then shame on him. If your plow breaks in the middle of the night, then you either need to have a backup plan (ie, another truck available) or know somebody who will definitely open up for you. Also, nobody is going to open up for free, you may need that few hundred bucks you saved. Personally, I can't imagine having to rely on a shop to fix something that breaks on a plow. It isn't rocket science. I've broken bolts and hoses and such before, and either fixed it right there or drove it home and fixed it in my garage. And I'm not a tech, but snowplows are pretty simple. So, in short I disagree. Dealer service is important, but price is more important when you're talking a significant amount of money.
    Plow installation is the same everywhere you go. You HAVE to go over it and double check everything afterwards, because nobody cares about the quality of their work anymore. Which is why you can't even get your coffee right at the drive-thru twice in a row.

    Hey Joe D, that was a great price. I installed mine in a little over two hours I think, wasn't difficult at all. I'm glad I didn't pay someone $500 to do it for me. I still can't believe the difference in price between the Blizzard and the straight blades and Vees. I would think the bigger, better plow with more R&D and more moving parts would cost a lot more than the ones that havent changed much in 30 years (other than the quick attach).
  6. ed salvatore

    ed salvatore Member
    from boston
    Messages: 71

    portsmouth ford

    I bought a new 800 straight last year from Portsmouth, $2995 installed. Nearest guy in MA was $4500 with tax installed. For a $1500 savings, I'll go over the plow myself and check everything. Only real fault I found was an occasional bolt not quite tightened all the way, and I neatened up the wire ties a little. Other than that, ok.

    I completely agree with Detroit Dan. It's not rocket science if it breaks. And for the guys that won't work on your plow because you didn't buy it from them (under warranty or not), exactly, shame on them. I always thought warranty work was warranty work, they get paid from the factory. Can't look the other way for $1500!!!
  7. Detroitdan

    Detroitdan PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,937

    Great Googa-Mooga!! Somebody finally agreed with me!
  8. Theo Epstein

    Theo Epstein Member
    Messages: 59

    I think in general, most of the "small distributors" you refer to will perform warranty work on a product even if they didn't sell it. However, you should probably assume that the units they did sell will "go to the front of the line".

    As for Portsmouth Ford sold units - I think most of the "small distributors" you refer to, look at those units entirely differently and will not do work on the plows that they've sold.
  9. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,993

    Factory's pay a fraction of what the retail consumer pays.

    They expect you to bare the cost of inventory, training, paperwork, postage, and environment.

    They rarely pay full shop rate, they most certainly DO NOT cover increased wages for employees who have already worked for 14 or hours to be at work at 2:30 in the morning

    They leave you no profit margin on parts, that you bought from them at the normal rate, so they make their money.

    I'll do your warranty work, if I'm an authorized dealer for that plow, whether you bought it from me or not.

    If you bought the plow elsewhere I'll do it between 8-5 Mon-Fri,by appointment, after receipt of factory authorization, please bring all the paperwork, I need it for the forms. After hours, you want us to do it, we will. I will require you to pay my bill and argue with the factory about extra charges yourself. She'll help you with the paperwork, etc. I'm not trying to be a d^&k but it's a business to me to.
    If you bought it from me, Bring it on, 24/7 if it's Snowing, I'll worry about the factory authorizer, she's got all the info to do the paperwork.

    Warranty is at best a time filler. I hate it:realmad: , I do it willingly, but I hate it. Best case scenario, I break even on a simple problem, but it can also mean it's a sh&ty design so you can't fix it only repair it, again and again. Could also be the customer broke something and wants it fixed for free, OR THE WORST the original dealer install was flawed so either I pay the cost (if I installed it) or have to deal with the irate customer whom i'm telling "the installer screwed up it's not factory warranty, you have to take it back to where you bought it or pay my bill yourself".

    Just like your customer, when you deal with the lowballer you get what you pay for.

    Why I avoid dealing in the budget priced equipment. the better built the less warranty work, and the easier they pay.

    Remember the guy 2 hours away knows he's not going to be dealing with your problems, so he will sell to you cheaper.
  10. Nascar24

    Nascar24 Senior Member
    Messages: 645

    A lot to be said here!

    Prices are important to all of us, and Plows for the most part are simple if you have;
    Good Mechanical skills , Good Tools and Equipment, Good Welding Skills and Equipment.

    For anyone who possesses what was listed above,you can afford to shop, for those who have te rely upon someone else, I'd recommend you purchase from a good servicing local dealer.
    I tend to fall into the former not latter category, I tend to keep some back-up parts on the shelf, and complete back-up plow, out back, but even with that I think the most important thing is to have a buddy or two who you can work with! These forums are great to share information and develop relationships, if you haven't got a back up buddy in place I'd suggest you find one and create a mutual aid type relationship. For years I worked with a couple of other operators in my area, helped with plowing and repairs and they did the same for me, was a better way to being less dependent on dealers.

    As far as Blizzards are concerned, which by the way I think is a very good plow, it takes a good knowledgeable dealer to service them, it's not just a typical plow. I have had very good experience with Jerre's Service in Erie, PA, Jerre has alway's been very friendly and helpful, probably the most knowledgeable plow guy around. His level of preparedness of a Blizzard is second to none, If you want a Blizzard, he's the go to guy, get an Erie Special out of the box , you'll be spending a bit more money upfront not loosing money by being down and out.

    Remember a sweet deal is soon forgotten after a sour turn of events!

    COBBETTS AUTO Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Blizzard Plows Installed By Portsmouth Ford

    I own a well established repair business for over 23 years that specialize Truck sales and Service I have been using Portsmouth Ford for all my plow installs well over 100 plows I have bought and had installed at their facilty !! I can only remember two small concerns and they were a Fisher or Blizzard warranty concern that I didn't have to pay for. When I read all these statements from "I heard something or a freind of mine said " that their installs were poor quality etc I have to stick up for them when I have spent well over $300,000 with this company and have been teated nothing but in a professional manner. In response to Ram 1500 I can only say that my technicians that look over their work when we bring it back to my shop never come running back stating " Hey boss look at these loose bolts, wires not installed properly etc " If this was the case do think would still be doing business with these folks ?? I was just at Portsmouth Ford dropping off a 2004 GMC 2500 series for a plow and a guy was there from Canada staying in a hotel to have them install a Blizzard plow he said he saved $3500.00 by driving to Portsmouth New Hampshire.In regards to extended hours for repairs I have never had a problem with these guys they are open 6 days a week from 7:00am - 6:00pm that's all I need !!!
    For the statement " You get what you pay for " I would said in some cases that my be true but in this case they are the exception to the rule and to note that after I have them install plows on my trucks at retail prices and never had a customer come back and complain about prices and or workmanship !!
    I hope that telling you all of my business experiences with Portsmouth Ford over the last 10 years will tell a better and more truthfull story then what I have read in past negative forum statements.
  12. Yaz

    Yaz PlowSite.com Addict
    from NH
    Messages: 1,061

    This is Funny

    I did a google search on Cobbetts Auto, Cobbetts Trucks, Cobbetts NH etc and found nothing but the lake and not repair sales at all.:confused: may be I spelled it wrong???

    Hmmmm If I was a detective I would be thinking, here's a guy claiming to own a truck sales and repair business for 23 years and has no record of existence on the net. Why doesn't he install his own plows ( 100 of them ) and has only made 2 post here and only brags about Portsmouth Ford. Why hasn't he added to helpful posts about repair issues instead?

    Excuse me because this may not be true, and I hope it's not but you have to admit that you sound more like you work for Portsmouth Ford than yourself.

    Real or not, you are right, people should never bad mouth anyone second hand. If you get a price from them and it's good and you don't know there work personally ask to see an install in a truck they did. Shame on you for being a uneducated buyer. Do remember they are not a authorized dealer..And giving prices so low? If were Fisher I would not sell to them at all and maybe check the serial numbers to see if they are legit.
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2006
  13. jhook

    jhook Senior Member
    Messages: 375

    tymusic Oh that is cute. I am the guy from Canada that was there yesterday. And yes, I saved a boat load of cash. After I exchange the money and everything the exact amount I saved was $2850 Canadian. The whole trip including fuel, hotel, food cost me $450 so I just kept $2400 in my pocket for 2 days driving. The service I got there at Portsmouth was great, I have yet to go over the truck with a fine tooth comb as I just got home last night but that isn't hard. I would do it again in a second if I needed another one. Thanks to whoever started this thread, you saved me a lot of money.
  14. PatrickCampbell

    PatrickCampbell Junior Member
    Messages: 23

    Well for $800 difference, I would drive to NH for a weekend, stay in a nice hotel and relax while someone else works on my truck and still come out $500 ahead. Is this wrong of me?

    EDIT: Does NH have no sales tax? If so, add another $300 to that $800 for me.
    Last edited: Oct 28, 2006
  15. jhook

    jhook Senior Member
    Messages: 375

    That's right, no sales tax in NH. The sale is on until the end of the month. I thought it was worth it.
  16. ed salvatore

    ed salvatore Member
    from boston
    Messages: 71

    Come on Guys

    I agree with Yaz. Sound a little strange.

    I've read most of the comments about Portsmouth Ford and wanted to respond. We bought new from Portsmouth last year, and save $1500 over nearby Damian Diesel in Avon, MA. How could we say no to that. We had to.

    Since that time, we've gone there for routine service items such as flag posts, cutting edges, and oil. Each time we are hit with "where did you buy your plow", then they begin to insult Portsmouth, gig time! You'd think we insulted their mothers.

    I'm tired of the nambie-pambie whining. Listen, as small business owners, we all dislike warranty work, but the threads I've seen don't hold up. We still need to be courteous and not insulting For $1500 though, wouldn't everyone???

    I'm sure Damian Diesel guys shop around for the best or close to the best prices for their cars or home applianeces. Why do they crap on us if we go to Portsmoth and save $1500 on a plow. Come on!. Maybe they should offer another plow brand if Blizzard is cutting them out by selling so low to Portsmouth. I understand the plight of the little guy, but come on. We are afraid to ask for a bolt now from Damian.

    Just my 2 cents.
  17. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,993

    Yes courteous, yes provide warranty work, Yes handle service, parts and repairs. Provide the extra service that i'm not reimbursed for, not to outside purchases.

    I stand on my head for my customers, I try to be as competitive on my pricing as my cost of product allows. I do not however feel the same commitment to their equipment as i do for my customer. I reserve the right to limit the level of service I provide to outside purchases. I have to offer some incentive to induce the customer to purchase from me.

    That said, I would never insult or make a customer uncomfortable because they did not buy from me.

    And remember this when you lose a contract to the lowballer, don't complain, and when the lowballer screws up go in an clean up the mess like it was your own. You need to understand why wouldn't your ex-customer hire someone else whom was 2/3 your price.
  18. PatrickCampbell

    PatrickCampbell Junior Member
    Messages: 23

    For some reason witha motto "like live free or die", I just had to assume there's no sales tax. Ther'es not many states like that.. :salute:
  19. ThisIsMe

    ThisIsMe Senior Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 745


    Just started searching for a new plow. After reading this thread I called Portsmouth. They quoted me $4295 for the 810. So far impressed as the salesman took considerable time. I will be up there Thursday to get it installed. Driving by at least 5 other dealers to get there.

    One thing that was mentioned. They buy there plows over the summer. Could explain for the savings that they pass along, if true.

    (not affiliated with Portsmouth Ford)
  20. jhook

    jhook Senior Member
    Messages: 375

    You'll do all right there. Looks to me also that they are a good sized dealer so they must get some price break on the quantity.