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My Truck Broke

Discussion in 'Ford Trucks' started by LesleinLawn, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. LesleinLawn

    LesleinLawn Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 98

    I have a 1997 F350, 5.8 gasser.

    This truck only has 80K miles on it. This is the truck I use for my lawn & landscaping / plowing business in NE Ohio.

    Well it needs some tending to. So I schedule it to have the leaking exhaust manifold gaskets replaced along with a new complete exhaust system. Replaced patched tranny cooler lines, tune up, and fix drivers door lock.

    The after Mike (the best most honest mechanic/auto shop owner I have ever known) calls and tells me that we need to do a tie rod, ball joints, and front u-joint. okay no big deal, lets do that work. Cost is around 2K.

    Then Mike calls me back and tells me to come to the shop. I get there and he shows me where the frame is broke on both sides (pictures attached).

    Well this is not supposed to happen to a F350!!

    You will notice in the pictures that to me both breaks look to be exactly the same!!! Which seems funny.

    This is a great truck. I know the truck.

    Now do I move it on and replace? Do I do the repairs? Can it be safely fixed?

    I bought this truck Aug 2008 for only $2800 from a local city fleet. Its a good truck and everything listed is all that is wrong with this truck, it would be as good as new if all fixed.

    So what should I do?
    What would you do?

    I do not like making payments on my work truck and do not believe in using brand new trucks for work and hanging a plow off of them. Thats just me, not saying right or wrong.

    Anybody else have any experience with a problem like this? What should I do?

    Also the welder guy mentioned that it could be a tempered frame and that it should not be welded. Does anybody know if it is a tempered frame? or how I could find out?


  2. creativedesigns

    creativedesigns PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,929

    Get the hottest Arc welding machine for the frame.
  3. LesleinLawn

    LesleinLawn Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 98

    I am by no means a welder or a metal worker in any way shape or form.

    But, looking at this, it doesnt seem like the end of the world. I think it can be fixed back to new condition or better. There is not rust involved and a clean crack.

    Am I right or wrong on this?
  4. LesleinLawn

    LesleinLawn Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 98

    here is the truck and you will see why I want to keep it.



  5. kashman

    kashman PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,070

    a good welder can fix that no prob and i mean a good welder not some1 who thinks they can weld. make sure they sleeve it 2 i welded for 12 years
  6. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180

    Very nice truck and I NEVER SAW frame like that.:eek::eek:

    Did you hired driver to use this then we know they beat to death.

    I agree with welder guy because front of frame have leaf spring mount so I don't feel safe to patch crack frame.

    You can call junkyard for good frame. Mostly they sell like $300.

    Well I go check our 95 F250 to make sure frame not broke.
  7. Too Stroked

    Too Stroked Senior Member
    Messages: 573

    First of all, nice looking truck. Second of all, I've never yet run into a frame that was tempered. That said, any good welder can fix that frame. It's just a question of how much it's going to cost. If you plan on keeping the truck though, have that good welder look at the rest of the frame to see if there's any other issues you might want to be aware of.
  8. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,796

    Boy Mil, good thing he has a Ford with that SFA and stronger frame so it doesn't brake from plowing. wesport

  9. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180

    Well you don't know if that driver ram at frozen pile at 50 mph.

    Why don't you try ram pile at 40 mph and let us know what happened.

  10. fzzy

    fzzy Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    My 1990 f350 did the same thing on the right side we removed the spring hanger and had it welded and plated that was 3 years ago and I have had no problems with it but the person welding it has to know what they are doing to make it safe
  11. jb1390

    jb1390 Senior Member
    Messages: 710

    That'll buff out....
    Weld it back together-it is a nice clean break that looks easy to access. Any chance on showing the guy you bought it from the issue and maybe get some money back for the repair? A truck with a broken frame isn't worth much-there might be legal implications of a city selling a truck with a broken frame, due to safety reasons. Might be worth a shot to regain some of the cash you have invested in it, (and will need to invest in it) to make it road worthy.
  12. TJS

    TJS PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,440

    I cannot see you pics (at work). However, my 85 Chevy broke in half at the horns just behind the motor mounts. Welded plated and boxed it in. Never a problem after that. It is weldable just as long as they know what they are doing.
  13. TJS

    TJS PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,440

    Couple of pics of my fix.

    This happened on both sides.

    welded back together.

  14. Milwaukee

    Milwaukee 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,180

    Almost like that but it front end of frame.

    It near front leaf spring mount.
  15. albhb3

    albhb3 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,523

    thats what happens when you dont use fluid film
  16. F350

    F350 Junior Member
    from USA
    Messages: 10

    Holy crap!

    We have the same truck, and now I'm worried about mine.

    Where exactly are the cracks at? The pics aren't clear, but looks like it's on the radiator support mounts?
  17. L.I.Mike

    L.I.Mike Senior Member
    Messages: 370

    That repair will outlast the truck. Nice job.
  18. LesleinLawn

    LesleinLawn Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 98

    that is right behind the front leaf shackle mounts
  19. dieselboy

    dieselboy Member
    Messages: 43

    A little JB weld and duct tape. let her dry overnight. good to goussmileyflag
  20. dieselboy

    dieselboy Member
    Messages: 43

    ...or 1 minute if you get the fast kind