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Michigan State Law for snowplowing?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Lawnman883, Jan 12, 2009.

  1. Lawnman883

    Lawnman883 Member
    Messages: 85

    Hey guys,
    i got pulled over this mronign when i was out driving because the officer was upset my business name was not displayed on my truck. He also tried to get me for not having a plow license in the city i was in, but i was not activly plowing when he pulled me over..just driving.

    He said according to michigan law a commercial vehicle needs to have its business name, city, and state labled on each side if it has a gross weight over 5,000 lbs.

    Has anyone delt with this before? How much does the ticket run? (He could not tell me apperantly)

    Also as I am worried about it, do we need DOT numbers? He never said anything about that...but iw ant to cover myself. Also someone told me about special license plates for commerial business/plow use? Anyone know much about that? Right now its just under my persoanl name...

  2. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,780

    Cop had some correct concepts but no idea what he was talking about. Did you get any ticket at all? Yes, get truck lettered up, including DOT number. The number is free to acquire.
  3. Lawnman883

    Lawnman883 Member
    Messages: 85

    Yeah he wrote me a citation for violating michigan motor vehicle code numver MVC 257.723
    He could not tell me how much it cost or anything just said call the court and they will tell me how much i have to pay and that I need to pay within 10 days.
  4. Leisure Time LC

    Leisure Time LC Senior Member
    Messages: 723

    what city were you in. I see alot of trucks with no names on them running around. He probably figured you had all kinds of money for the amount of times we have plowed this season
  5. Lawnman883

    Lawnman883 Member
    Messages: 85

    I was driving thru Wyoming. I think he tried to get me on the fact that in wyoming they require a plowing license and I dont have one...but i was not operating just driving...
  6. Krieger91

    Krieger91 Senior Member
    Messages: 353

    I see tons of guys driving around here (Lansing / East Lansing area)with trucks that have got to gross over 5k, and they don't have lettering, or DOT numbers on them.

    Perhaps that is a country or local ordinance. My best advice would be to go to your nearest State Police precinct and see what they can find. Usually State PD can find out the laws and things.
  7. Lawnman883

    Lawnman883 Member
    Messages: 85

    I know i was looking today and half of the plow trucks i saw today had no info displayed on them either...i wonder if this cop was planning to get me for somethign else..
  8. Leisure Time LC

    Leisure Time LC Senior Member
    Messages: 723

    I was just thinking the same thing
  9. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    As I understand it, and I could be wrong , here in NJ if you have commercial plates you are supposed to be lettered, never heard of anyone getting a ticket though. As far as DOT numbers if you register over 10,000lbs you need numbers and a dot health card. In Hackensack where I have 7 accounts and is where my shop is you need to be liscensed by the town, must provide ins info, DL #s for all drivers, plate #s for all vehicles that "may be engaged in snow or ice control operations" and the kicker is the SSN for every driver. Oh and 250 for the permit plus 25 per after the first truck registered, if you hold the contract you can cover subs if you are covering their ins, if not they need their own #........Seems to me like a way for the city to make a few grand a year...........
  10. ogdenflooring

    ogdenflooring Member
    Messages: 92

    I've heard all about that cop!!!! DOT, Truck Route, plow licenses, and now Display of Business Info???!!!!!!

    This guy must have a chip on his shoulder, sounds like he needs a hobby!!!! Doesn't he know Marge's Donut Den is right there on 28th!!!!!!!

    I avoid Wyoming if at all possible

    Good Luck
  11. CityGuy

    CityGuy PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 17,220

    Sounds like big brother is trying to screw the little guy again. City licence to plow? WTF Now I have heard it all. I can see DOT # and health card but next I suppose we are going to all have to wear the same clothing.
  12. unimogr

    unimogr Senior Member
    Messages: 236

  13. Lawnman883

    Lawnman883 Member
    Messages: 85

    I was going to plow my buddy's driveway too...i was on my way to my fulltime job in my uniform and all and was not driving bad i was under the speed limit and he decided it was time to write me up for something...

    He did check the wrong box on the ticket saying i violated a local ordanance, while the book he gave me said i violated a state law...maybe i can get it thrown out since he made a mistake on the ticket?? lol
  14. CityGuy

    CityGuy PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 17,220

    DA will throw that out in a heart beat as they have better things to worry about. You just have to waste a day in court house. No money for your time.
  15. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 860

    Did he show you the law?? What did the book say??

    I just had to buy plates and while at the Sec State I called 888-464-8736 and the officer I spoke with said commercial plates are not required until truck weight is 8000# - nothing to do with DOT #, strictly the commercial plate.

    I told him I was in construction, we do haul and are very often over 10000, which requires the DOT #.

    I'd like to see what he violated you for. Wyoming and Jenny can kiss my butt, we drive thru there with a plow on and I'm sure we'll be hassled.
  16. Lawnman883

    Lawnman883 Member
    Messages: 85

    He showed me in the commercial book MVC 257.723. Thats what he wrote me up for.

    So if my truck can handle up to 9900lbs, do I need commercial plates? Empty i dont weigh over 8,000...
  17. nwtf5

    nwtf5 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Sounds like sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrane on the dukes of hazzard. (maybe he needed his driveway plowed ... hehe) that wyoming area is crazy for the law enforcement... are they still charging service calls (police) if your in an accident and NOT from wyoming . not sure how he can give a ticket when your not plowing,,,, as long as truck was legally road worthy...cheers !!
  18. ogdenflooring

    ogdenflooring Member
    Messages: 92

    He WILL show up to court to fight it.......he has nothing better to do!!!!!
  19. ogdenflooring

    ogdenflooring Member
    Messages: 92

    I personally know of 2 cases in Wyoming similar to this. It's only 1 cop who enforces these "silly" laws. Same guy both times.
  20. mullis56

    mullis56 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 824

    what a suck ftick