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Loading bag salt ideas

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by dealer374, Dec 23, 2014.

  1. dealer374

    dealer374 Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 30

    Hi guys I've been reading up on some ideas but haven't quiet found one that will be suitable for my application, here is my setup.


    It's a Bobcat HS-8 and loading is a pain. I'm at a commercial account (a supermarket) who supplies their own salt due to the concrete deck of the parking garage and large concrete loading pad out back for deliveries.

    They have storage containers that store the salt with 55 50lb bags per pallet and I use 1.5-2 pallets per application, I do 2 applications at most.
    The hopper holds 10-12 bags and I currently load by lifting 5 bags up on the hopper at a time slicing and dumping... 100+ bags later I'm tired.

    Does anyone have any creative ideas to load the hopper? After the remaining dozen or so pallets are gone they have 2,000lb sacks that I will need to load. Really hoping someone can help with a innovative idea to make this easier on myself. Thanks in advance your thoughts are appreciated.
  2. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    You ever heard of a Seed Tender I seen guys use Salt in them to load there hoppers
    Pre load the tender and then drive up to it Auger salt in your hopper
  3. leigh

    leigh 2000 Club Member
    from CT
    Messages: 2,342

    Maybe string a wire across so you can throw bags in they'll slice open.
  4. Ukisuperstar

    Ukisuperstar Junior Member
    Messages: 29

    Why not dump all the salt in the container, stack it up with your bucket and scoop it with the salter when ready to use. That salter is self-loading.

    SHAWZER PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,287

    Good looking machine and self-loading salter . Maybe hang some rubber on it to help eliminate salt spray back . Superstars idea seems good. Thumbs Up
  6. dealer374

    dealer374 Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 30

    Thank you for all replies guys I hope everyone had a good holiday. I hope to find a solution for this soon.

    I have not heard of one those but it gave me another idea I mentioned to the foreman. Using a concrete hopper or a old paving dump body on stands at a angle just drive up and dump in. Hopefully he makes this idea happen

    We thought about this but the problem is all the water and crap that will get tracked into the container. We have a container full of sand we do this with down the street for the office parks area and that container gets nasty

    Thanks :) this one is seasonal rental haha I like that idea though got salt on my Carhartt overall and wasn't happy
  7. framer1901

    framer1901 Senior Member
    Messages: 852

    3-4000# of salt thru that little spreader every night? I hope you are getting pad well.

    I'd most certainly be using that self loading feature, who cares if it gets nasty, better than picking up a hundred bags.....
  8. dealer374

    dealer374 Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 30

    They pay me alright but not good enough to lug all those bags all night..... They know it too which is why they said come up with a solution and they'll do the best to get it done. Granted it gets easier everytime I do it but thats not the way I want to get my exercise wesport lol

    The problem with the container getting nasty is that once water/sleet/snow/moisture gets tracked in the container the salt will start to harden and clog the spreader. I've already run into problems with small clumps from the 50lb bag salt don't know if the 2,000lb sack will be better or worse. I've been tossing them out as I load by hand.
    If you notice in the picture there is 1 of 3 "trap" doors that control salt flow. It doesn't take much to clog those, a few small clumps of harden salt will greatly reduce if not stop flow.
  9. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    You must be a city guy then

    Here a pic of what they look like Make them from steel to poly

    If I had to load that much from bags I would set up a Salt Tender

  10. dealer374

    dealer374 Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 30

    Yeah I am a total city guy :D I have never seen one of those but they look like an awesome idea, thanks for the pic. I am going to get on the foreman about that next time I see him.

    I like that setup, I would still have to handle and slice open what is left of 50 pounder's until I get to the 1 ton sack but all I would have to do is drive the skid up to the pallet slice and dump right in the bucket to preload that tender...No actual lifting!

    I appreciate the help fellas don't know if they'll implement this particular idea but i'm going to push for it so please keep the idea's coming if you have any!!! Thanks again guys
  11. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    Some of them fabric Totes has a opening on the bottom Raise it up and mount to a stand like A frame Then you pull under it let flow into your hopper That depends if your totes are the reusable ones

    Good luck

    STARSHIP Member
    Messages: 38

    Working off of your concrete hopper idea, you could look for a new or used collapsible bulk container with a hopper bottom. http://www.bulkcontainerexpress.com/p/DGB574565-HB.html They hold over a ton, so you could empty an entire bulk bag in it, and then elevate it in order to get your salt spreader under it to load it.
  13. Antlerart06

    Antlerart06 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,437

    You can use them on a Tender to

  14. JD Dave

    JD Dave PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,194

    The best thing to do is buy a new self loading spreader that will handle bulk salt and small wet clumps and forget about the bags.
  15. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 6,078

  16. derekslawncare

    derekslawncare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,003

    Not to COMPLETELY highjack your thread and go off topic, but how do you like the tires you have on your skid steer? They look like the Solideal Lifemasters that I was thinking about putting on mine. 95% of my machine use is snow related, so that is my main objective is good traction on snow/ice covered pavement. As most have commented on other threads pertaining to this subject, the factory Beefy Babies that come on it are useless. Please let me know your opinion on the tires you have and if they are indeed Lifemasters. Thanks.
  17. WIPensFan

    WIPensFan PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,594

    That thing looks awesome. But...it doesn't solve the loading 100 bags by hand dilemma or loading from the sacks of bulk.

    OP, you were crazy to take on the "use our salt" deal. Really you need to be spreading bulk from a truck mounted spreader.
  18. Comet

    Comet Senior Member
    Messages: 160

    Sure looks like a a tireing situation, why not just obtain an utilize a truck with a hopper spreader with bulk material
  19. dealer374

    dealer374 Member
    from Mass
    Messages: 30

    I'm not exactly sure but I will check next time I'm at the machine. Whatever they are they're nice. I was moving big piles almost the entire width of the 10' box I was using and had no problem. The machine was working OT but she clawed in.

    I had nothing to do with the negotiations of the deal I just work the company that did. To my understanding the reason we don't use a truck is there a weight limit on the parking deck. I believe its 8,000 or maybe 10,000lbs.

    I really like STARSHIP's idea of the collapsable bulk container because we can lock it up in the container and move it around easily with the forks. While I'll still have to handle every bag until we get to the sacks I won't have to lift the bags as much
  20. derekslawncare

    derekslawncare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,003

    Ok, thank you very much.