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Leasing or buying used?

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My long time excavator sub is no longer plowing...too much dirt work and guys are shot after a night of plowing. He's not the only one, quite a few are getting out of it.

Ran some numbers for a lease machine and using some averages, we were getting off much cheaper using their loader and an operator.

Leased loader is brand new. All maintenance is included in the lease price as well as a 5 year warranty. But the number of hours on average per season, plus operator wages, fuel and insurance push the hourly rate higher than what we are charging. So if we have lower than average snow those costs go up, above average the costs go down except fuel and labor. They also figure about $13,000 in scheduled maintenance over the 5 years.

I also ran some numbers on the 244 I was leasing vs my Kubota M125X which has had some significant repairs. Even factoring the purchase price of the 'Bota, it still was cheaper. Different machines but it was the closest in price and capabilities.

Add to that, I'm old-fashioned and like to see some iron sitting in my yard that I own after paying a chunk of change.

So would you buy a used machine, with more potential for repairs and breakdowns but overall a lower hourly rate or lease one that will still sit for 7 months?
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Well, guess I can use the 544 for plowing and buy an excavator for loading salt...wonder if I can not spill any salt?

https://www.westernplows.com/gallery/striker-compact-video-2020/
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521 was a 3.9 4bt
621 was always a 5.9 6bt
721/821 was an 8.3 IIRC
The 721D I looked at had an Iveco diezel.
Well, guess I can use the 544 for plowing and buy an excavator for loading salt...wonder if I can not spill any salt?

https://www.westernplows.com/gallery/striker-compact-video-2020/
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Well, guess I can use the 544 for plowing and buy an excavator for loading salt...wonder if I can not spill any salt?

https://www.westernplows.com/gallery/striker-compact-video-2020/
Why would they even make something like that? And why would they put the bulk brown in it?
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Why would they even make something like that? And why would they put the bulk brown in it?
No clue to either question.
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Why would they even make something like that? And why would they put the bulk brown in it?
A) For tiny pickups
B) to show that it can be used with sand, as opposed to a salt only capable spreader
A) For tiny pickups
B) to show that it can be used with sand, as opposed to a salt only capable spreader
C) utvs???
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C) utvs???
D) Heavy half tons...
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They make a 1/3 yard for that
So the 1/3 yd is for utvs and the .35 yd is for trucks???
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D) Heavy half tons...
E) pickups with short boxes.
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So the 1/3 yd is for utvs and the .35 yd is for trucks???
Oh boy Illernoiz math... .7yd vs .33333333333333 repeating yards....
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They make a 1/3 yard for that
The one mark linked to was the .7 yd
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Oh boy Illernoiz math... .7yd vs .33333333333333 repeating yards....
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Why would they even make something like that? And why would they put the bulk brown in it?
So guys can plow Walmart's with a short bed CC 1/2 ton or Tacoma
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So guys can plow Walmart's with a short bed CC 1/2 ton or Tacoma
But they own an excavator to load it?
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Why would they even make something like that?
They were probably reading @TOMHIII 's thread !
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But they own an excavator to load it?
Well yeah they are professionals........professionally speaking.....

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Boy...cant wait to prewet the sand at the spinner though thats gonna be a game changer...
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Boy...cant wait to prewet the sand at the spinner though thats gonna be a game changer...
Will be for the guys that use pool salt.Thumbs Up
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