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Leasing or buying used?

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My long time excavator sub is no longer plowing...too much dirt work and guys are shot after a night of plowing. He's not the only one, quite a few are getting out of it.

Ran some numbers for a lease machine and using some averages, we were getting off much cheaper using their loader and an operator.

Leased loader is brand new. All maintenance is included in the lease price as well as a 5 year warranty. But the number of hours on average per season, plus operator wages, fuel and insurance push the hourly rate higher than what we are charging. So if we have lower than average snow those costs go up, above average the costs go down except fuel and labor. They also figure about $13,000 in scheduled maintenance over the 5 years.

I also ran some numbers on the 244 I was leasing vs my Kubota M125X which has had some significant repairs. Even factoring the purchase price of the 'Bota, it still was cheaper. Different machines but it was the closest in price and capabilities.

Add to that, I'm old-fashioned and like to see some iron sitting in my yard that I own after paying a chunk of change.

So would you buy a used machine, with more potential for repairs and breakdowns but overall a lower hourly rate or lease one that will still sit for 7 months?
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So I get a text with a listing for '99 544H. Some silverback over in Detoilet.

Another loader same year and same model as I already have wouldn't be a bad option either. It's closer than the Case, has more hours than my current one and needs tyres. If I were to buy it, I could transfer the tires and rims ( @BUFF ) from the gooder one to the badder one and put snow tyres on the gooder one for plowing and use the badder one for loading salt.

I hate these decisions. At least it's only a half hour away.
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So I get a text with a listing for '99 544H. Some silverback over in Detoilet.

Another loader same year and same model as I already have wouldn't be a bad option either. It's closer than the Case, has more hours than my current one and needs tyres. If I were to buy it, I could transfer the tires and rims ( @BUFF ) from the gooder one to the badder one and put snow tyres on the gooder one for plowing and use the badder one for loading salt.

I hate these decisions. At least it's only a half hour away.
Then you're going to have the same issue the gooder one had with the badder one, a tire up front with low air pressure causing more then a 5 gal bucket of spillage...
Then you're going to have the same issue the gooder one had with the badder one, a tire up front with low air pressure causing more then a 5 gal bucket of spillage...
I never have been that good.

And I can even see the end of the bucket without standing up in the cab...
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My mekanik says Deere enjuns get expensive after 10,000ish hours. He said he'd like to tell me to buy it because then I would see him more.

My wife doesn't even say that.
My mekanik says Deere enjuns get expensive after 10,000ish hours. He said he'd like to tell me to buy it because then I would see him more.

My wife doesn't even say that.
What?
You asked about case. I can't remember the whole story, but a friend had one start on fire. I can't remember if there was something that was Jerry rigged, or whatever. I'll ask him when I see him.
You asked about case. I can't remember the whole story, but a friend had one start on fire. I can't remember if there was something that was Jerry rigged, or whatever. I'll ask him when I see him.
Maybe that's why he was pushing me towards the 721 with lower hours...he can rebuild a burnt one.
He did say it should have a Cummings in it, either the 5.9 or possibly the 8.3. And everyone knows I that I like Cummings.
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He did say it should have a Cummings in it, either the 5.9 or possibly the 8.3. And everyone knows I that I like Cummings.
So do 1845's do you have a fleet of those...?
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So do 1845's do you have a fleet of those...?
No
So do 1845's do you have a fleet of those...?
Those have 3.9s
521 was a 3.9 4bt
621 was always a 5.9 6bt
721/821 was an 8.3 IIRC
521 was a 3.9 4bt
621 was always a 5.9 6bt
721/821 was an 8.3 IIRC
What! No L10's...:rolleyes:
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