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JD 319D or Cat 257B3??

Discussion in 'Equipment, Tools & Vehicle Pictures' started by billcolandscape, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. billcolandscape

    billcolandscape Member
    Messages: 30

    In the market for a tracked skid steer. Looking for advice or anyone's history on these machines in the snow? On the JD I am looking to get a set of Polar Treads, so any comments on those would also be appreciated.


  2. Iowalawn

    Iowalawn Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 63

    I have a 257b2 tracks are amazing, with a 10ft pusher does not stop it. I also have a tak TL150 it's like ice skates will not move with the pad tracks. Only problem I run into with the 257 the rear idel wheels will wear into the tracks if you don't plow with the tracks tight on the ground(level).
  3. Mid-Ohio Scaper

    Mid-Ohio Scaper Senior Member
    Messages: 610

    CAT all day long. Thumbs Up
  4. Mark13

    Mark13 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,794

    I think before you decide which machine you like, what are you going to be doing with it aside from snow?

    (I've never owned an ASV or a Cat 7 series so take this into consideration)
    Everything I've read about the undercarriage on those machines is that they are very costly to maintain but in return they are very good in snow and have a nice ride. It seems they also can take some getting used to for doing grading or leveling work and getting used to the suspension on them to get things smooth.
    Also it seems they do not like rocks or other hard materials that can get into the undercarriage system and chew up the idler wheels.

    I've got a Tak and with the factory tracks the thing is useless on hard packed snow or ice. It has about as much traction as a person does with boots on standing on water covered ice. There is far to much surface area from the alternating block pattern to get a good grip on the snow, I would figure the Deere would be equally as poor with the factory tracks. With polar tracks everyone seems to love the track machines and can't say enough about how big of a difference the tracks made. Essentially turning a useless machine into a fantastic machine in the snow.
  5. peteo1

    peteo1 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,660

    Like what Mark said. I have a cat 267 and it goes great on the snow but maintainemce is a PITA. Keep up on your maintainence and it'll treat you fine. Deere's are nice as well but nothing beats a Cat.
  6. xbl003x

    xbl003x Member
    from PA
    Messages: 44

    I have sold equip for both cat and deere
    i would choose the Deere, they have done a great job on the new D series!
  7. Marek

    Marek Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    The Deere is a nice machine but when we bought they didnt want to move much on thier price and Cat really dicounted theres and gave us zero percent vs the 4.9 that Deere wanted. In the end it added up to a ton of money and we got a great machine.
  8. icudoucme

    icudoucme Senior Member
    Messages: 367

    I was in the same spot you are a few years ago. I opted for the CAT. I was able to get a 297C a year old with less then 100hours for the price of 257B2 new.

    Before I bought mine I rented a 257B for a week to do a land clearing job. That is one capable machine. I test drove the deere (320) and didn't feel any special attraction..But others feel differently.

    Benefits to the CAT
    Smoother ride, better flotation on soft soil, better traction in mud and snow (with standard tracks) more comfortable ride, larger cab, faster ground speed with 2 speed.

    After owning it the downsides (which I knew when I bought it) Rear visibility, keeping the undercarrage clean and greased, and cleaning the inside of the frame. If you do alot of dirt work you'll need to clean out the inside (where all the pumps and fans are) about 2 times a year. Also if you don't clean the inside of the cab your throttle pedal will stick..

    other then that the machine is easy to maintain. The zerk fittings are easy to get to, filters are easy to change, oil changes are pretty easy to. The only other machine I would rather have is one of the new M series bobcats those things are gosh darn near perfect.

    NICHOLS LANDSCA PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,362

    I have a 247B with 17xx hours I've replaced bearings in one front bogie and in two idlers. Nothing else has been touched. Keep an ear out for noise and you will be able to save the wheel.
  10. Iowalawn

    Iowalawn Member
    from Iowa
    Messages: 63

    Like they say "if its not a CAT it's a dog"
  11. jrs.landscaping

    jrs.landscaping Senior Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 722

    Demoed a Deere, really comfortable and handled well.

    Then I got sticker shock, tried a Cat, and didn't look back. I would have liked the Sat. radio but my marine radio works just fine in my 257, especially for the extra 6k the Deere was going for.
  12. donleybrent

    donleybrent Member
    Messages: 38

    I use my Cat to push snow and do lots of dirt work with it and love it for both over any of my other brand skids.
  13. schmol

    schmol Senior Member
    Messages: 120

    We own a 257B3 and love it! We had a 257B2 before it that we traded in on it. Both are and we're flawless machines. If snow is in your plans you will not be disappointed with its capabilities. The new mits motor that cat has installed in lieu of the Perkins is a huge step foreword. Better on fuel we find and lots more balls. It hauls the mail with a 2 speed to boot! I haven't personally run a Deere so I can't say much about them, but we love our CatsThumbs Up. We do have a T190 and it usually sits most of the year cause the Cat is so much better.