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Is 17 accounts too much???

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by plowin boy, Oct 30, 2006.

  1. plowin boy

    plowin boy Member
    Messages: 88

    I have 17 accounts that I have lined up for this upcoming season. 4 are hotels, 1 restaurant, 2 businesses that take approx 45 min each, 3 that take about 1 1/2 hours total, 4 apartments(approx 2 hours total) 1 church and 2 gas stations. Plus a little drive time. Is this too much for one truck to handle?? (2500hd with 7.5 Western pro plow with wings) I think I have backup if needed. Thanks for your input
  2. FFD133

    FFD133 Senior Member
    Messages: 140

    you are probably gonna want some help to get them done in a timely manner. Especially if there is a big snow, you will get behind real quick. Get the help if you can, at least one truck.
  3. Krimick77

    Krimick77 Member
    Messages: 50

    In my opinion that is probably too much for one truck to do and keep everyone happy at the same time. Your looking at about 10 hours of plowing which is fine if it stops snowing at midnight every storm.

    Those are all commercial and I imagine they want the lots done by around 7 or 8 am. What are you going to do on those days when there isn't enough snow to start pushing until 4 am?
  4. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    10 hours? Do you plow at 75 MPH?

    Im sorry but of course thats too much for one truck. Youd have been better served just coming and saying "Hey....going good this year, scored some good accounts, hope every one else is gettin lucky too"


    I hate these disingenuous threads.

    Not to be rude but I do.
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2006
  5. jcesar

    jcesar Senior Member
    from Mi
    Messages: 492

    I would have to say, if you can get another truck to help, you should. That is alot of plowing for one truck, especially if you get alot of the wet stuff. Not to mention, with them being commercial, you will have your hands full with open times to complete. Best of luck to ya, and hopefully you find a little help.
  6. Gicon

    Gicon Senior Member
    from MA
    Messages: 989

    Guys I think hes pulling our leg. Plowin, how did you get all these contracts awarded to you with a 3/4 Ton and 7.5' plow????
  7. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    I'm amazed, given an exchange we had on another post, but I completely agree with you. I had the same thoughts when I read it. The other thing was I wanted to ask how much experience he had. To ask if this is too much implied no experience plowing. With any experience, it's obviously too much for one man - one truck.
  8. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    We can agree to disagree and you made some great points in that other deal. I learned some things. And thats what this is all about.

    The thing I thought when I saw this one was, if he's smart enough to sell those kindof accounts, he must be smart enough to know one piece of gear wont be enough.

    Ergo....another smoke and mirrors thread.

    That might even require 3 trucks and a loader.

    And the guy that says thats 10 hours o' plowin needs a new calculator too.

    Ya know?
  9. jcesar

    jcesar Senior Member
    from Mi
    Messages: 492

    LOL. That was pretty funny.But I think I might agree. You would have to moving pretty good to plow that in 10 hrs. Unless there was only 1/4 inch on the ground
  10. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    Well thats what I mean abot getting on the same page sortof. When ya got these kinda deals.

    Then in that other deal that one guy comes in and says hede hit it for 80 bucks...With a Loader?

    Then he says one ton of salt. Now I dont salt but I work with guys that runh some pretty large rigs, and I guess its no wonder he could plow it for 80 if he's puttin a ton o' salt down, on that small complex. Hede have so much salt buildup he wouldn't have to plow it for five years!


    Oh, and you owe me a whopper.

  11. jcesar

    jcesar Senior Member
    from Mi
    Messages: 492

    Ann Arbor,
    I think we agree on this, if nothing else. Best of luck to ya.
    If you don't salt, then maybe I should buy you a whopper, so you can save your money for a spreader!!!!payup
  12. LLM Ann Arbor

    LLM Ann Arbor Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    Hell. If things dont pick up and if it doesn't snow a lot, I'll be working at BK.


    I have spreaders galore but just dont salt resis, and dont have any commercials. The ones Ive done were followed up with a topkick and a tailgate deal.
  13. crazymike

    crazymike Senior Member
    from Toronto
    Messages: 639

    not sure where you live, but to be honest, I have never had a customer ask to see my equipment before signing a bid.

    They *might* ask what equipment we use, but generally they want to know one thing, PRICE
  14. Frozen001

    Frozen001 Senior Member
    from Rome NY
    Messages: 908

    A few years ago when I was woking on a maintnece crew for commercial properties.... we had two trucks to handle 6 properties.... anything over 4" we were lucky to get them cleard by 8 am if we started at 3am... 17 is waaayyy too much for one truck
  15. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,394

    IMO, Its a decent amount of accounts for one guy but the problem is they all need plowed within a timley mannor. I would sub out maybe some of the ones that will take longer while you knock out the smaller ones. It also depends when they request to be plowed out by, I have some that don't need to be open until 9am and the rest want opened by 6am. Cant be everywhere at once.
  16. bgingras

    bgingras Senior Member
    Messages: 282

    so this is a joke right? you have some special truck that just makes the snow go away?

    your going to need that backup truck to run full time, that's way to much for one truck to get done within anything resembling a timely manor. Trying to plow them all alone is a great way to end up with 5 accounts afterwards.

    Let me ask you what happens when you have a 2" per hour snow fall. How much snow is in the last lot on your route? Can your truck push that and survive? Can you do it a clean and professional manor?

    The apartments alone will be a pain and take more than 2 hours since you will have to clear where cars have been moved, and moved again, and again.

    hotels have cars in them until a very specific time frame, and even then there are still some in the way, so you have to go back again.

    So I ask, can your really handle it and keep up wth the snow fall and keep them all happy, I'm not concvinced.
  17. Daner

    Daner PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,187

    You are going to have fun this winter

    You are going to need help and a back up plan...You may brake something on your first account...Bring a bucket for the tears. I would say that you need a loader and 1 more pick up...Like the other guys said...It can really storm...and then you have to salt...before the people/ customers start walking around on the lots:confused: ...IMO If you have these contracts signed...start getting lotsa sleep now...You wont have time to sleep when you get hit with 3feet of snow.
  18. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    The more I watch this and think about it, the more seems implausible. The guy is 23 years old. He has all these restaurants, hotels, apartments and so on. Apparently has no experience given the question he's asking. Then tells us how much time two of the businesses and four of the apartments will take. He's very exacting with the "businesses" in that two will take 45 mins each and three will take 1 1/2 hr (or 30 mins each). See where I'm coming from? 2 at 45 each and 3 at 30 each - nobody is that exacting.The four apartments will take two hours total ( 30 mins each). Then "a little drive time."? There are simply too many "30 min jobs".

    And he hasn't been back to reply to any of this.
  19. Kramer

    Kramer Senior Member
    Messages: 386

    the church and gas stations alone are 4-6 hrs..

    This thread = LOL!!! :gunsfiring:

  20. Vaughn Schultz

    Vaughn Schultz PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,565

    I would be out trying to find some more accounts :rolleyes: that seems a little short to me :eek: Have you thought about advertising :confused: