ice control for wooden decks

Mike Nelson

Senior Member
Location
Naperville IL
We have been doing 350 condos units all with wooden steps for years.We tried sand/salt,but the sand made a mess(tracking in the units).So we went to straight salt.We also found out that the wooden steps would freeze before the roadways or our concrete walks.
You could use treated salt(Iceban or Magic)or maybe try liquid applications,again Iceban,Magic,Clearlane,etc.

Good luck and feel free to give us a call. :cool:
 

Taconic

PlowSite.com Veteran
The only problem with using calcium on wooden steps or decks is that it will take all the moisture our of the wood and can promote cracking on the deck because the wood shrinks and expands more than usual
John Parker
Taconic Maintenance Inc
845-485-4200
 

Mower For Less

Senior Member
Location
SE Michigan
New Decks

I have a customer with a new wood deck, just built this summer, and has not stained or sealed it yet. It was built with regular PT lumber. My question/problem is that she wants me to use an ice melter on it, but I dont want to damage the deck. I have told her my fears and the reasons for them. I told her I will do it if she wants, but she has to realize the damage it can cause to the deck. What I want to ask you guys is, do you think Calcium Chloride on a new untreated deck will be ok, would Magnesium Chloride be better? Just wanted to get some opinions on how you guys would handle this situation. Would you think a stained/sealed deck would have better resistance to the damaging effects of the melter?

Thanks!
Kevin
 

Mick

PlowSite.com Veteran
Location
Maine
I put down Magic Salt before it snows. It'll melt snow as it falls and keep it from bonding to the deck. Then just peel off anything it doesn't melt. A few years ago, one application melted the first three snowfalls cause it only snowed an inch or two at a time.
 

Mower For Less

Senior Member
Location
SE Michigan
Does this have any adverse effects on the deck? This customer is a year round customer who I also do lawn, hedges, and cleanups for. So I really want to be carefull about damaging her new deck.

Secondly, where do I get Magic Salt, what is it?

Also, anyone have an opinion on Magnesium Chloride vs Calcium for this?

Thanks,
Kevin
 

Grn Mtn

PlowSite.com Addict
Location
Rochester NY
wooden decks and salt

Andy is right, have her sign a letter that says "I the customer understand that using Ice control products on my new untreated deck will most definitely ruin it, but I don't care because I like wasting money, and using sand is just too messy. Messy messy messy. purplebou " Than take here money with a smile and get into the decking business on the side :D
 

Mower For Less

Senior Member
Location
SE Michigan
You suggest I word the letter just like that do you??? lol. I went to salt last week, and I noticed she applied her own salt to the deck, so I am just going to run with that, and she can ruin it herself. I would much rather sell her new deck boards having her think it was her fault, then sell her a deck repair thinking it was my fault :drinkup:

Kevin
 

butler L&S

Member
Location
Twin cities MN
I do a townhouse complex that has wooden steps and a deck leading to the front doors and I use calcium chloride. Over time the nails have started to pop up (major PITA when shoveling). Other than that the wood has held up well. Last year they started replacing and rebuilding many of these decks and I made sure they used screws.
If The wood is treated regularly you should be ok using calcium chloride IMHO.
 

stumper1620

Senior Member
just get a pressure washer to sell a deck wash in the spring, get the white salt lines out of the wood, pound the nails down or tighten the screws whatever it has holding it and go for it. won't hurt the wood, just stains it.
wash wait a day and convince her to seal it.
 

Longae29

PlowSite.com Addict
Location
Wisconsin
Look at me, I had a question, and before just posting something I used the search function. WOW, amazing! Magic Salt still the way to go, or has there been a new product introduced since '04 that would be more effective? According to their website the closest dealer to me is about 40 miles away, if there is another product anyone could recommend it would be awesome.

They call it a "boardwalk" I'm thinking obviously not going to be able to use a 4wheeler with plow, but a small toro snowblower should be ok.

wh-03-boardwalk.jpg
 

Luther

PlowSite Veteran
Location
Michigan
Longae29;807267 said:
They call it a "boardwalk" I'm thinking obviously not going to be able to use a 4wheeler with plow, but a small toro snowblower should be ok.
Come on.......whats wrong with a plastic snow shovel.

Even an old man like me could knock that out in 10 minutes. :p
 

Longae29

PlowSite.com Addict
Location
Wisconsin
I'm pretty sure most of our sidewalk guys have no idea what a shovel looks like.

I'm not that worried about the clearing of it, its only a 150' stretch, more concerned about what to use to make it not slippery.
 

Luther

PlowSite Veteran
Location
Michigan
The wood does look nice. No matter what you go with the concern would be how it affects the metal framing around the windows and railing (and the wood)..

Maybe you can also sell them on a product that you can apply to the framing to protect it for any corrosion before winter sets in.
 

2COR517

PlowSite Fanatic
TCLA;807285 said:
The wood does look nice. No matter what you go with the concern would be how it affects the metal framing around the windows and railing (and the wood)..

Maybe you can also sell them on a product that you can apply to the framing to protect it for any corrosion before winter sets in.
Maybe Fluid Film?
 
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