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How old do you have to be to plow in a loader?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Plow man Foster, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Ok well i have a friend who's son is 14 and He is very mature for his age.. and was wondering if he could plow with us during the last snow in one of our bobcats
    And i was just wondering if he would have any problem from anyone if he was stopped or something...
    We have one loader that sits at my parents during the winter and he lives next door so if it was fine he could potentially get a jump on the snow before i get there....
    (we plow a couple subs)

  2. Triple L

    Triple L PlowSite Fanatic
    from Canada
    Messages: 6,078

    I was driving my uncles 13 transport trucks all around the yard everywhere at that age... Its a little different when its family I'd assume... I'd let him plow the yard quite a few times first before I ever let him go on a customers property...
  3. NorthernSvc's

    NorthernSvc's Senior Member
    Messages: 781

    as far as the law is concerned ( atleast this is how it is around here) assuming he's on private property he can drive whenever you feel comfartable lettiing him... however your insurance company might feel a little differently
  4. havenlax18

    havenlax18 Senior Member
    Messages: 285

    100% legal...
  5. Omran

    Omran Senior Member
    from KY
    Messages: 265

    I agree with NorthernSvc, The problem is Insurance and maybe watch the labor laws.
  6. havenlax18

    havenlax18 Senior Member
    Messages: 285

    14 is the legal employment age.
  7. Mdirrigation

    Mdirrigation Senior Member
    Messages: 413

    he will probably do better than guys in their 20s , read up on child labor laws , I know you have to be 18 to operate a meat slicer in md , not sure about equipment , but a friend of mine has had his nephews out there at 13 running bobcats
  8. SD-Dave

    SD-Dave Senior Member
    from Vermont
    Messages: 237

    Operate dangerous equipment.....gotta be 18....also even if it's private property.....if public has access you have issue with law if accident happens.....can't drive drunk in parking lot that has public access. Personally I wouldn't risk it...too much chance for huge problem. Keep him with a shovel or hand salter
  9. JohnRoscoe

    JohnRoscoe Senior Member
    Messages: 209

    In addition to the other points raised... some of the best young guys in their 20's helping me now, started on a shovel @ 14. Give him a fair wage & put him to work, he'll be a better man for it someday.
  10. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Yeah im not sure but i'm deff. not going to let him run it on a regular bases.... unless im there
    My dad holds the key so i still have authority there!
    This (i hate to call him a kid) but boy knows what a "dollar" is.
    he does 5 Old guys driveways and lawns

    I know i didnt learn how to make a dollar til like Mid high school (dont judge me!) lol
  11. swtiih

    swtiih PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,179

    give your insurance agent a call, the last thing you need is to have an incident and potential to not be covered
  12. Harford13

    Harford13 Senior Member
    Messages: 147

    You have to possess a Valid drivers license to operate ANY motorized equipment on a public roadway, only exceptions are mopeds, but here in Md you still need a moped permit if you don't have a license
  13. Florida08

    Florida08 Junior Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 20

    But you have issues with breaks and then OSHA. According to OSHA anyone under 18 can not drive a vehicle. They have a lot of stupid rules, at 15 you can't use a knife, highlighter pretty much anything. I run a warehouse and I have issues with minors applying for jobs that involve fork lifts and driving trucks.
  14. tuney443

    tuney443 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,847

    Did you know OSHA is one of those 4 letter dirty words?Yup,sure is.Funny thing is that even though they have certain requirements for the placement of toilet paper holders at the workplace,OSHA members still don't know how to wipe their own arse.:)
  15. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    give him a chance
    nothing like bursting a kids dream at a young age
  16. buckwheat_la

    buckwheat_la 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,254

    around here you can drivce heavy equipment/tractors at the age of 13
  17. TSherman

    TSherman Member
    Messages: 74

    If he his anyone you are done. I wouldn't risk an area with public access unless you are plowing near the entrances. It sucks when you have a good kid to do it, but even at that...he is still bait for those people out there just looking for money.
  18. Plowtoy

    Plowtoy Senior Member
    Messages: 929

    I think the real question should be "how old do you have to be to help land an airplane at one of the largest airports in america?" (just thinking back to last summer). Actually if your insurance clears it, i think with some guidence a 14 year old could do just fine in your loader
  19. geer hed

    geer hed Senior Member
    Messages: 275

    Here is what I know in my area.
    14 to 18 you must follow child labor laws, and the teen MUST have working papers from thier school.

    In order to operate the equipment in public lots or on roads you must have a valid drivers license.

    Now the best thing is to check with your local authorities to find out if there are any exceptions. Such as I know out west you can operate trucks and equipment on the roads if you work for a farm and the equipment is owned by the farm at age 14. Some areas have different laws like that.
  20. Plow man Foster

    Plow man Foster PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,153

    Yeah i gave my insurance agent a call today he said it would be fine (Im covered) as long as he has papers and is under supervision by me or my guys....

    Also he said if its a on occasional bases no ones gonna stop him in my area!