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How many Residential drives for one truck?

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by ontario026, Nov 10, 2009.

  1. ontario026

    ontario026 Senior Member
    Messages: 228

    What's your thoughts on how many average Residential drives are adequately covered by one truck (3/4 ton, 8.5 xtremeV)??? say within a 20 mile radius?

  2. suzuki0702

    suzuki0702 Senior Member
    Messages: 649

    well i think im being signed up for 20 this year with my 8.6 staight. contractor says 3-4 hours.. that gives me 9-12 mins per drive to plow and be at the next one.
  3. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    First all your spending to much time driving .you need to hit whole subdivisions .This way your plowing not driving to do one here and one there.
  4. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    My whole route isn't 20 miles long and I do 30+ drives and a bunch of commercials too.
  5. jbis1782

    jbis1782 Member
    Messages: 44

    To much driving in between drives. I agree with Grandview
  6. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,257

    A 20 mile radius is 40 miles apart. Not that many IMO. Driving in the storm can take awhile. Going back to plow after the street plow only to find he hasn't been yet could be a problem also.
  7. ontario026

    ontario026 Senior Member
    Messages: 228

    The only reason I look at such a large area is that I run a marina, and we stay open during the winter (cut back hours, and skip out some snow days) since we sell and service Argos. I live close to 20 miles away in another town. So service anyone in the town I live in, or in the village where my marina is, and anyone on the way.... I got my extremeV last year, but too late to get more than a few plow customers other than my own business lot, but this year so far I have right now 3 quite small parking lots and about 8 confirmed resi drives, and probably another 4 resi quotes that should pan out as well, I just want to make sure I don't over extend myself...

  8. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,257

    I would think you can handle more work then that.
    What's your idea of a resi drive. Here it is 20X50.
    Most guys here plan on a 8 hour route. Your's looks to be a lot less then that.
  9. Gr8WhiteNorth

    Gr8WhiteNorth Senior Member
    Messages: 227

    How do you market to increase customer density in specific subdivisions? I do regular mailouts, etc.without great results. What advertising do you employ? And what service do you get the most response from? Example - do you offer shovelling at an increased price, or only dropping the plow, and what snow fall event triggers service?????

    Anyone try marketing this - cheaper service rates at lower service level and frequency work to attract new clients. Lower service level = no shovelling at garage doors and walks. Less Frequency = doing routes at `2 inches instead of every snowfall
  10. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,257

    I found the best way to get new contracts was to put your price on the flier. Deliver them yourself to the specific area you want. I had a 1" trigger but never got out of the truck. Do really good work and you will get the clients that are getting poor service.
  11. ontario026

    ontario026 Senior Member
    Messages: 228

    I figure I can handle some more, I have a spot in the top corner of 2 local news paper front pages where I have been advertizing boats, I have had them both change the ads to Snow Plowing for this up coming week, should be able to pick up a few more there.. Plus my wife made me up some fliers, which I have been stuffing mail boxes with in the small village where my marina is.... Luckily for me, but unlucky for the other fellow, a gentleman who had what seems to be a fair number of resi customers had a stroke, and had his license revoked, so was forced to give up plowing, so I have already secured several of his old customers, and hopefully will snag a few more with the ads on the 2 news paper front pages....

  12. Scottscape

    Scottscape Senior Member
    Messages: 662

    Depends how fast you have to get to them, size of storm, how long/big driveways are. Lots of variables.
  13. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    Be careful putting flyers IN mailboxes. (Postage Regulation)
  14. dingybigfoot

    dingybigfoot Senior Member
    Messages: 342

    small radius is the key. keep em close and clustered.
  15. turbo38sfi

    turbo38sfi Senior Member
    Messages: 289

    20 miles is a HUGE radius! I do 25 drives in a 5 mile radius and that's too big of an area. Each year I prune the ones on the outside and try to get more that are closer together.
  16. Plowfast9957

    Plowfast9957 Senior Member
    Messages: 280

    When I had a full schedule I did 35 driveways and one commercial lot. The lot took about an hour. The driveways took about another 3. Mine are all in developments and I have at least 5 in each one.
  17. zurfsturfcare

    zurfsturfcare Junior Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 20

    one of our trucks does 72 in an 8 hour day.
  18. Brian Young

    Brian Young PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,394

    "A 20 mile radius" thats quite a bit of driving, especially in a bad storm. I wouldnt even toy with driving that long. You need to (if you can) focus on maybe a 5-7 mile radius. We focus on entire subdivisions...very little drive time, usually smaller driveways and oh yeah, very little drive time.
  19. jblatti13

    jblatti13 Senior Member
    Messages: 123

    72? what do you have a 20 ft wideout on that thing u just pull in backdrag the entire drive? wow, last year i had 15 average size drives in a 5 mile radius finished up in about 3 hours.
  20. MileHigh

    MileHigh PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,827