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Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by 7.3powered, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. 7.3powered

    7.3powered Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    My name is Jonathan and i'm 23 years old and currently own my own lawncare business and have operated it successfully for 6 years now. I currently own a '00 Ford F250 7.3 4X4 6spd. with a new heavy duty aftermarket clutch and flywheel which i use for my business. I am interested in getting started in the snow removal business this year and am perplexed as to where to start...I also have use of a 35hp Ford tractor with blade and a 60hp Allis Chalmers tractor with blade, unfortunately, both without cabs...however, its only my dad and I working so we could only operate 2 pieces of equipment at a time if the weather permits being out in it. I'm thinking of just going with a front plow (possibly a Boss poly) for my truck and a small blower for sidewalks etc..... I'm also interested if any of you experienced ones have some tips on insurance?....I'm not going to be doing very much if any commercial accounts, moreso residential....anything i should know or take in to account?

    Just a side ? - Anyone have a Kawi Mule they use for Snow Removal?
    Might be one in the future for the family farm and could use it in the winter for some snow too...they make a "72 blade for it and windshield/cab....and I have used one this fall for a landscape job and they go everywhere even in 2wd. and according to my family that owns a dealer, they are road legal as long as you have an orange triangle in the rear window, as they are classified as a tractor......just brainstorming.....

    Any inside tips or how to get started and go about things are greatly appreciated....
    If you have any lenghty advice please email me at thecuttingedgelawnservice@hotmail.com

    Thanks alot guys for your help and thoughts......gameplan in progress!
  2. hydro_37

    hydro_37 PlowSite Veteran
    from iowa
    Messages: 3,790

    call around for insurance quotes
    you HAVE to be out when it is cold and snowing.....your customers dont care if your tractors dont have a cab
    where in Iowa are you?
  3. MileHigh

    MileHigh PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,827

    If you are wanting to start up this season...your pushing your luck on your timing, as jobs are filling up quick...

    Are you hell bent are trying to service your own customers your first year of plowing?

    I would call around or check to see if any reputable contractors are hiring subs for your area and learn the ropes plowing commercial lots...then after you sub for a year...you will know how long things take in different conditions and that will give you much knowledge as how to go about putting together a price for services.

    That is what many of us have done..and it's very smart.

    Unfortunately at your age of 23...your insurance rates are going to get hiked up...Your going to need:
    -General liability insurance
    -Commercial Auto insurance
    -and most likely WC if your serious.
  4. Wayne Volz

    Wayne Volz Senior Member
    Messages: 694

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  5. 7.3powered

    7.3powered Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    I already have a million dollar commercial insurance policy and commercial auto insurance for all of my equipment and it actually isn't too expensive.... just was wondering if I needed to add anything to it...guess I'll have to talk to my agent...and my already existing customers and others have inquired about whether I do snow removal and I'm kindof at the limbo stage as to whether to go ahead with it or not. and as to the subs... my close neighbors have a big lawn care and snow removal service and I was actually thinking of getting some work with them or seeing if they would let me do some of their work sub contracted....after I got efficient with it, considering they have mentioned it to me before.

    Thanks for the good advice MileHigh.

    and yes I'm aware I have to be out when it is cold and snowing....if you check our last 3 years of snowfall, we've gotten blasted. Had about 27-30in. in Dec. alone...and thats what Carhart is for.

    also where can I find annual snowfall for a particular area? I've typed it into Google and not had to much success.

    Thanks Guys
  6. 7.3powered

    7.3powered Junior Member
    Messages: 13

    got 43in. in Feb too.