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Hauling per cubic yard

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by snowbrothers101, Jul 27, 2009.

  1. snowbrothers101

    snowbrothers101 Senior Member
    Messages: 154

    We are relatively new to the commercial snow plowing industry (2 years). In the past, we did limited hauling and when we did, we did it hourly. I have ane xisting customer asking me to price it out by cubic yard. Can anyone share any info on what a fair price would be to bill out a customer by cubic yard?
  2. mullis56

    mullis56 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 824

    That would be a tough one to answer or bid b/c there are a lot of factors. How many yards to be moved when it is to be moved? How far is dump site compared to load site? Is there option to move it intra-site? What is the cost of a loader & operator in your area? What is the cost of a tri or quad axle in your area? Figure those out and also the worst case senario for turning the loads time wise and then put a number on it the only way I can figure?
  3. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,953

    thats going to be a real p.i.t.a. a lot of times you get huge chunks out of a pile that arent going to fit in the bucket, so you going to count it as 1.5 to account for more snow being moved, or give it away at 1yd? your operator, or driver are going to have to record each and every scoop, which isnt going to be too awful fun, especially since most hauling occurs after periods of often several snows over a few days. but if they insist..................your loader $ per hour, operator per hour, truck per hour, driver per hour, divided by how many yards you think can be done in an hour, boy sounds like hourly would be the easy way to go...........
  4. JohnnyRoyale

    JohnnyRoyale 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,935

    Figure how many yards will fit into whatever hauling truck your using-ie: triaxle (25-30 yds), and costs associated with loading, hauling, dumping and return return trip, and divide by qty. Now keep in mind, your average cubic yard price will be less if you put more trucks on the road, as your loading costs will be spread out thinner per load. FWIW, around here, I have seen prices anywhere from 300-500 a load. Good Luck.
  5. pohouse

    pohouse Senior Member
    Messages: 322

    The city here hires contractors based on hourly rate of driver/truck divided by cubic yard capacity of the truck. Price ranges from $4 - $7 per cubic yard per hour. The city pays per hour in the end. Think of it as the city leasing dump space at the lowest cost per hour. They want the biggest truck at the lowest price.

    I would take the driver/truck hourly rate and divide it by the number of cubic yards you can move in one hour. Think about delays caused by weather and multiple trucks loading and also return trips. For example if you have a 20 yrd dump truck: $150 per hour / 40 cubic yards (two trips)= $3.75 per cubic yard. Sounds cheap, but in the end, your still making your hourly rate. Becareful not to overestimate the amount of snow that can be moved in one hour.

    Hourly is the way to go, hands down.
  6. murray83

    murray83 Senior Member
    Messages: 420

    Very true if its a bad season like last year hourly is the way to go
  7. snowbrothers101

    snowbrothers101 Senior Member
    Messages: 154

    Cubic yard for salt

    I have plowed the same commercial building for a few years but have never handled the salt as they did themselves. This year, they asked me to provide a cost to handle the salting where I would bill them per cubic yard. Can anyone provide an average cost to handle this service by the cubic yard?
  8. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    Are you going to use bulk salt or bags? I would take the cost of materials times two. However many other factor will come into play.
  9. snowbrothers101

    snowbrothers101 Senior Member
    Messages: 154

    I was going to use bulk salt. I contacted a distributor where I can purchase by the ton.
  10. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    Well 1 ton is really close to 1 cubic yard depending on rock size. Take into account how far you have to travel each time they call for salt.
  11. snowbrothers101

    snowbrothers101 Senior Member
    Messages: 154

    So my price is going to be around $75 a ton for the salt. My travel time to the site is only 1 mile.
  12. cet

    cet PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,257

    How large is the place you will be salting? Do you know how many tons you will use on average?
  13. mike33087

    mike33087 Senior Member
    Messages: 555

    where the hell are you getting salt for 75 a ton?
  14. salopez

    salopez Senior Member
    Messages: 876

    yes thats what I want to know...can you get better pricing for larger orders?
  15. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    My experience is that sometimes a yard weighs a ton, sometimes it's a lot more. If you can get salt for $75 a ton, I would be looking to get $200 a yard.
  16. mullis56

    mullis56 Senior Member
    from Indiana
    Messages: 824

    We are getting salt for less then that this year...at least 900 tons...then supply/demand pricing.