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Full time job and plowing?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by canadianplower, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. canadianplower

    canadianplower Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    Does anyone here have a full time job and plow before or after work? I work from 8:30 to 5 Monday to Friday and want to plow but don't see how I can with the hours I work. Is there such a contract that anyone has that specifies times when you will be plowing? Like snow plowed before 7:30 and after 5? I was thinking some business' may like this that way their lot is actually done better as there would be no cars in the way.

    Your feedback is appreciated.tymusic
  2. Rustygold89

    Rustygold89 Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    Companies always have their parking lots plowed overnight usually(From what I've seen first hand, but I have no exp., so I'm just helping you with a quick answer), I work at a grocery store and they always plow it at about 2 AM, have all of the associates move their cars to another side and plow the other end, that way it is fresh tar in the morning for customers and the whole lot is plowed since there are little to no cars in the way like you said. Then that same guy drives down the road and plows another store, most businesses that have big parking lots have it done overnight and I guess in the day if it is heavy. I don't know about small businesses but I'd think they'd want it done early morning and whatever they say threw the day.
  3. AiRhed

    AiRhed Senior Member
    Messages: 401

    That is awesome.

    Sure, you could do it. I work 7-3:30pm but have it worked out with my FT employer to come in at 9am on snow days and not be penalized, other than lost wages. What I would suggest, is do some Sub work. Find a sub that can keep the lots open while you're at work etc and then complete the snow removal at night like "most of us always usually do." Businesses will need and want their lots completely cleared by opening hours. If business opening is 7:00am and the storm subsides at 5:00am, you'd better get trucking.
    Last edited: Sep 4, 2009
  4. kolkie05

    kolkie05 Senior Member
    from Chicago
    Messages: 114

    I have a regular gig 9-5:30 and honestly all my plowing was done overnight last year or after I got off work. Most business understand your not going to plow during biz hours because of cars. That is unless it is a bank or gas station which you might have to at least clean a drive path for them until later.
  5. Mick76

    Mick76 2000 Club Member
    from Maine
    Messages: 2,157

    I have to disagree with the above statements... unless your subbing, plowing and a full time job don't mix......Think of it this way.... you get a snow event and say it snows 6", you fail to plow till the end of the event resulting in a dangerous condition....can you see were this is heading, ... yup someone slips and falls and you've got all your profits gone for the season.... unless your subbing or doing resi's don't do it...JMO

    Good luck
  6. bltp203

    bltp203 Senior Member
    Messages: 484

    Agreed.........if you have a full time job, subbing is the best way to go. Just be up front with your contractor about your job and the hours you are not available.
  7. Dei Gloriam

    Dei Gloriam Junior Member
    Messages: 11

    Last year I worked solo and had 70+ residentials and a few commercials, all customers understood I had a full time job during the day. All my plowing was done after work and overnights. The customers were aware of this. On heavy snow days, my "full time job boss" would allow me to take the day off, with one of my holiday picks.

    I've expanded this year and have made arrangements for extra drivers (for the day time hours) and shovelers, I was just too tired some days at my other job!

    I would also take my sons out with me during the evening to spend time with them. An understanding wife also helps!

    It can work with the right client base. Residentials can be more understanding. Like anyone else, they pay money, they just want to make sure your going to show up. Be upfront with them. At the end of the year I had great feedback from them all.
  8. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,993

    The two keys for making it work.
  9. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    Not only does the client base need understand, you really need a flexible boss. If you head to work with two or three inches down and it's still coming, you are going to have some unhappy customers with 8 or 10 inches in the drive when they get home.

    I wouldn't even touch commercials your first year out at this point.
  10. toby4492

    toby4492 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,513

    I always clear the snow as it's falling usually :p
  11. basher

    basher PlowSite Fanatic
    from 19707
    Messages: 8,993

    doing it that way can you completely get most of it?
  12. 2COR517

    2COR517 PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,115

    I always completely get most of it usually
  13. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    I only completely get most of it usually some of the time. :eek:
  14. toby4492

    toby4492 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,513


    What were we talking about again????????????........................Oh yeah...................

    I usually get most of it, well sometimes all of it, most of the time, usually ;)
  15. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    We need SNOW!
  16. probably not an option when you are starting out but reliable guys that can go out for you during the day for large storms or clean outs can make working a ful time gig a very real option. If your a solo operator doing commercial (IMO) isn't wise anyways because just as if your not availiable (at work) your in trouble, one truck can lead to the same problem. the jump from one to two is the hardest after that it gets easier, in my case anyways. have to agree drives or subbing best start
  17. canadianplower

    canadianplower Junior Member
    Messages: 18

    Looks like a 50/50 split. I don't have the equipment yet and didn't want to put out the 20+k if it wasn't realistic. I don't have an understanding boss so I would have to be at work regardless of the amount of snow down.
    I did prop maint. 3 years ago but gave it up when I had to move and see the potential for it where I live now. I know I can get a ton of grass contracts in the summer but wanted to see about snow removal as well. I am 46 and would rather work my a$$ off now then have to work until I am 75. (recession kicked me in the ba!!s). So this is "why" I want to get back in. Thanks for the feedback so far, it is all good and helping me decide.
  18. metallihockey88

    metallihockey88 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,414

    id say you should be fine as a sub. i did it last year. told my boss first thing when i got hired that had a full time job and my time constraints and he was pretty cool with it. each time he called me to go out, i just told him when i had to be done and we were cool. i did commercial so usually he just had a few truck cruisin around during the day clearing paths and what not until we could come back at night and take care of the whole lot. it worked out real well for me.
  19. Brad3403

    Brad3403 Senior Member
    from Alberta
    Messages: 392

    Subbing is the way to go for right now.
  20. Smitty58

    Smitty58 Senior Member
    Messages: 223

    I have a fulltime job, have my own contracts ,and sub. AND......I only completely get most of it usually some of the time always, unless you count the times when I don't completely complete all of them which is unusual most of the time usually.:dizzy: