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Fuel Prices Raising Rates ???

Discussion in 'Commercial Snow Removal' started by Stan, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. Stan

    Stan Senior Member
    Messages: 579

    Cost me over $75. to fill up the truck. Made me start wondering how much I'll be raising the rates. Anyone have a formula or care to chime in ?
  2. PremierLand

    PremierLand PlowSite.com Addict
    from detroit
    Messages: 1,572

    It's been costing me anywhere from $80 to $90 to fill up. Yesterday I filled up everything, truck, mowers, gas cans, I spend $140 at the gas station. Im gonna have to fill up my truck again tomorrow :( but the mowers and gas cans will last 2 weeks so thats good. Havent thought about raising rates yet. Im thinking of having the customers bill have a 2% surcharge for gas when gasoline is over 2.50
  3. Stan

    Stan Senior Member
    Messages: 579

    I was thinking of using the national common carrier fuel surcharge rate. As of now its around 14%.
  4. sonjaab

    sonjaab PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,425


    Just FIY............Last week I ordered paper goods for my bar/rest./
    hotel operation. On monday I placed my order with the salesman.
    On Friday the stuff was delivered..........

    There was a $3.00 FUEL Surcharge on the bill..............

    Salesman made no mention of this..........Driver sez they started this
    a few weeks ago. Couldn't refuse the order. Need TP for customers
    to wipe their butts........ :eek: !!!!!

    I figure it would of cost $20 in gas to drive to Syracuse plus a stop
    at Hooters for me to pick it up myself............

    We are in a tough spot.........Raise our rates and possibly lose
    customers to the lowballers and their rolling scrap iron or eat the difference !!!
    :drinkup: ..................geo
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2005
  5. lawn king

    lawn king PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,085


    We installed a large fuel tank and electric fuel transfer pump in our shop last winter. It was not cheap but it's paying off now as we buy diesel in bulk at approximately 40 cents below gas station rates!

    SIPLOWGUY Senior Member
    Messages: 686

    Gas is $2.479 at Costco. I don't even look elsewhere. If the F350 is dry it will be a $90 fill up!
  7. Mistel

    Mistel Member
    Messages: 48

    Ok, I don't want to be all DOOM and GLOOM, but, I started a thread about 6 months ago asking what people would drive when gas hits $5 gallon. Here in Canada we already pay about $3 US for a Gallon, or about .90 cents a litre CD$. I think $5 USD per gallon is about 2-3 years away. I hate the fact that I can't buy a mid size North American truck with a small diesel. I'm going to import one from Europe and get 30 MPG.
  8. Makndust

    Makndust Senior Member
    Messages: 324

    I'm seriously thinking about 5% of the total bill for the month for a fuel surcharge. Think about it though, out here about all we can get is $60.00 / hour. I can guarantee that the 454 under the hood is sucking more than $3.00 worth of fuel per hour. I swear that everytime that you step on that thing it is like flushing a toilet. guess that I could just raise the rate to $65.00 / hour and not complicate things with a surcharge. Actoully I would be money ahead by $2.00 / hour. If anyone has any other ideas lets hear them.
  9. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    1 word is helping me "Acetone"

    google it for more info
  10. faughtj

    faughtj Member
    from NE Ohio
    Messages: 46

    Hey Nate -
    I checked out Acetone as an additive.. looks good.. are you getting real-world MPG increases? Do you use the 3 oz / 10 gallons of fuel ratio?
  11. justme-

    justme- 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,138

    That's the new "turbinator" this month.

    Lot's of hype, but everyone I know who has tried it has had poor results.
    I read SCAM, or myth- which ever you want to call it.

    Makndust, my only suggestion is get a smaller truck- do you really need a 454, or would a 350 be enough?

    I'm looking for time to tune up my Ram, she's down to about 11 Mpg, should be 16.
    I'll be putting in a 2-5% fuel surcharge for when diesel is over $2.00, if it breaks $2.75 I'll add another percent or two.
  12. Big Nate's Plowing

    Big Nate's Plowing PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,266

    3oz/10 gallons yup.... went from 14-15 on the highway to 17-18 in the durango,.... havnt tried it in the s-10's yet
  13. timm9

    timm9 Senior Member
    Messages: 168

    I stopped for fuel this morning on the way to work and this is what the prices were...

  14. Remsen1

    Remsen1 Senior Member
    Messages: 188

    anybody watch the episode of trucks where he showed how to make alternate deisel fuel? it's actually better for your engine. it was never mainstreamed cause the sum of the ingredients costed more than buy deisel but now it's cheaper.

    The main ingredients were used deep fryer oil (corn i believe), methanol, and lye.
  15. timm9

    timm9 Senior Member
    Messages: 168

    Drove by the same station today and the price is now $323.9
  16. Mistel

    Mistel Member
    Messages: 48

    You can actually put straight waste vegetable oil in a diesel. Just take old deep fryer oil, filter it and if you are in the south, just put it in your tank. Free fuel. In the northern states or here in Canada, you need a separate heated tank.
  17. caz41

    caz41 Member
    Messages: 86

    I'm gonna just put a straight $5/hour raise on the rates and see how that goes as far as the customers are concerned. It shouldn't be too hard of a sell as they are well aware of the spike in gas prices, most of them are probably going to do the same with their goods to offset the raises in delivery prices.

    I just want to know when this B.S. is gonna stop. I don't even want to get my heating bill this winter.
  18. lawnmedic

    lawnmedic Senior Member
    Messages: 703

    No, it still needs to be heated to at least 130 degrees F. Also the Duramax's and the new 6 Liter Power Strokes can not run WVO(waste vegetable oil) or SVO(straight vegetable oil) due to extremely high injector pressures....

    Actually the cost of making Bio-diesel is between .50 and .75 per gallon for the chemicals and electric needed to process it. the oil you can get for free since the restaurants have to pay to get it hauled off...
  19. SkykingHD

    SkykingHD Senior Member
    Messages: 368

    rising fuel prices

    We will have to raise the price of snow removal to cover the increase if fuel costs. Johny six pack and rolling scrap iron drivers will also have to increase the cost of doing business as they will also have to purchase fuel at this higher price.

    Not only will we raise the prices of snow removal but all the products we purchase will raise in price. Energy is used in everything we use. This fuel increase is going to cost us a lot. The big truck will cost over $228.00 to fill up. If I am going to loose money I will sell rigs and set in house and watch it snow. There are other ways to make a living. But if they want the service they will have to pay.

    Fuel surcharges, increasing prices is the only way out for us. You can't absorb this large of an increase in fuel, it must be passed on.


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