Ethical salting

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by Rook, Nov 28, 2019.

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  1. Rook

    Rook Junior Member
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    Curious as to what your opinion is on salting de-icing applications.

    When it's dry out and it goes -1 there's not much chance for slip and falls anyways.

    Some of my clients prefer -4 and below, but realistically speaking if it's dry and it goes freezing the chance of someone slipping is next to none.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Mudly

    Mudly Senior Member
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    I guess if it’s dry there’s no reason to salt
     
  3. leolkfrm

    leolkfrm PlowSite Veteran
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    at 0 check for run off trails and puddles if dry
     
  4. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite Veteran
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    I suppose it would depend on what’s forecasted, we presalt all the time if freezing rain is in the forecast, it may only do a little, but if we’re doing it during business hours, it shows the client we’re being proactive which is helpful from a pr standpoint.

    we’re referencing the centigrade scale right?


    There’s plentiful of company out there that don’t apply enough salt their first app and end up having to apply more, thus charging the customer more, this is wrong imo and it’s a blow to the industry as a whole, as we should take pride in our work, the customer hired us hopefully not strictly based on price, but because we’re knowledgeable on the subject
     
  5. Western1

    Western1 PlowSite.com Addict
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    I have seen some weird stuff like contractors working at site and dumping water outside or restaurant where buss boy dumps mop bucket outside. People don’t think so it may be justified at certain sites? I’m not one to salt if it’s not necessary
     
  6. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    There isn't a one answer fits all situations.

    Not sure why it's my responsibility to check up on the busboy or a contractor dumping water...those aren't naturally occurring conditions.
     
  7. Mudly

    Mudly Senior Member
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    I think he’s just asking if it’s dry?
     
  8. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
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    If your or your clients contracts are based on temperature alone to dictate salting you should seriously consider another client or vocation.
     
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    Rook

    Rook Junior Member
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    We get the least amount of snow here in this part of Canada, as far as I know most contractors here salt when it's 0•C below. The city lays down brine everytime it's 0 below. The only risk that I see is as said above someone spills water and it freezes over.
     
  10. JMHConstruction

    JMHConstruction PlowSite Fanatic
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    So you salt every time it gets below freezing, regardless of the conditions?:confused:
     
  11. OP
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    Rook

    Rook Junior Member
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    if it's dry wait 2-3 days before re-salting, but yeah
     
  12. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite Veteran
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    Not unheard of.
    Maybe @Defcon 5 could enlighten us on this, he’s a pretty smart fella.




    Or maybe just a fart smeller...
     
  13. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
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    I know Vancouver is alot warmer and gets very little snow, but how many times does it dip below 0 on average...just curious.

    I do daily monitoring from Nov - May, but applications would only be about 40-50 times. Below 0 would be crazy, as its the norm here for that period.
     
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  14. BossPlow2010

    BossPlow2010 PlowSite Veteran
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    Imperial or metric?
     
  15. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    Kelvin
     
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  16. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
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    Yes
     
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    Rook

    Rook Junior Member
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  18. gcbailey

    gcbailey Member
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    And I thought us using Rankin was a tough....
     
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  19. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    Am I understanding this correctly...any time the temp drops below freezing you salt? Whether there's moisture or precipitation or not?
     
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    Rook

    Rook Junior Member
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    Yes, and wait 3 days in between.
     
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