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Do i really need trip springs?

Discussion in 'Residential Snow Removal' started by apachemh60, Jan 15, 2009.

  1. apachemh60

    apachemh60 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    i have been lurking about this website for a while but havent posted much, i have a hiniker 700 series poly plow on my 05 silverado crew 1500,

    my problem is that my hiniker trips over the smallest bump and it is making it impossible to plow my driveway that is about 150ft long, i know there have been alot of questions about plows that trip easy and ive tried to uprgade my springs with no luck.

    i put a couple of 1000lb breaking strength straps on the plow frame to prevent it from tripping at all about a week ago and tested it with great success and have successfully plowed my driveway through the ice and heavy snow down to the cement and it works great.....my concern is that has anyone heard of someone doing this sort of thing and getting rid of the trip altogether??

    will my plow bracket break eventually?

    keep in mind i bought it brand new this year and only do my own driveway and dont pile the snow at all (i just push it in the street and mnDOT takes it for me.

    its been working great i just dont have enough experience to know how much stress its puting on the rest of my plow. any help is VERY VERY VERY much appreciated. -joe
  2. tinymitymo

    tinymitymo Member
    Messages: 91

    If your plow trips that easily I would say the angle is wrong and it is digging in......

    Either that or you need some serious lessons on how to plow....

    No offense......:waving:
  3. topdj

    topdj Senior Member
    Messages: 396

    I had a model 700 up until 2 weeks ago, I traded back to dealer for a 8' Hiniker Straight blade
    and it trips a whole lot less and back blades 5 times better.
    see if your dealer will let you trade it back for a 7.5 steel straight blade. I only paid 800 to upgrade
    plugs right in to your existing hardness and mount.

    Did you say you push the snow in the street? heck I would catch hell for that
  4. Captain

    Captain Senior Member
    Messages: 101

    The trip springs are there to protect your plow and your truck.

    I would say at some point you will hit something that wll do serious damage to the plow or truck......just my 2 cents.
  5. Dave Meyers

    Dave Meyers Member
    Messages: 54

    Can you post a pic of the truck with the blade in the down position, on a level surface? If springs are new, I would think it is the angle, too. My problem was different, old worn out trip springs. Very frustrating to have them trip all the time. I tightened them and one broke. Two new springs were inexpensive, tightned them to spec and is very nice now. Sounds like they are new, but are your springs tightened to spec? I would not remove them and replace with something more limitting. I considered it, but eventually decided not to, and glad I did. I want to preserve the integrity of the truck and plow, and when the springs are working right, that's when they will trip, and not otherwise. They still do so occasionally, but I know they are preserving my old truck and my old plow. I accomodate the occasional tripping by learning techniques that can be found on this site.
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2009
  6. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    eliminating your springs is a bad idea , for your truck your plow, and your driveway

    I have bend heavy duty plow frames, and i have trip springs... I could only imagaine the damage to all 3 with out any
  7. 04sd

    04sd Senior Member
    from pa
    Messages: 266

    Since the plow is new I'd have the dealer replace the springs and make sure they're adjusted to spec. I have no experience with Hiniker but it looks like the 700 has two springs similar to what is on a Meyer plow. I've had 7' and 7.5' Meyer ST plows with two springs that would trip to easy, the solution was to add a 3rd spring. New ST 7.5 plows now come with 3 springs from the factory. Also, a 1000lb strap, 1" wide I'm guessing, I think you may tear the strap before you'd bend the plow.
  8. artic429

    artic429 Senior Member
    Messages: 166

    Almost dumped my coffee in my lap when i saw this posting.....!! You say you have been lurking around this site for a while but finally posted something.. If you run without the ability to trip your springs, you will start to become a more regular on this site instead of out playing in the snow. Better see if you can tighten them springs down and get a little more snap out of em. More strength that way is better for your plow and your pocket book. wesport
  9. Kevin Kendrick

    Kevin Kendrick Senior Member
    Messages: 397

    I spit my diet coke all over my computer when I read this. I think you need to take up some other profession.
  10. coldcoffee

    coldcoffee Senior Member
    Messages: 776

    I can assure you the above statements w/ concern for damage to your plow and truck are well stated. I would also add that if you so much as hit some uneven concrete or a curb, you will be kissing your steering wheel and probably be taking a trip to your dentist. It's your call, just realize what your up against and don't forget that if you should wander over to a neighbor or friends house.

    Personally, I'd strongly recommend either fixing or modifying, and make it safe for you and your equipment.
  11. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,780

    You do what???? What happens a car hits that, spins out of control, flips, and a family of 5 is killed??????? Illegal and dumb! :dizzy:
  12. theplowmeister

    theplowmeister 2000 Club Member
    from MA
    Messages: 2,617

    you need something to give on the plow when you his an obstacle, that is what the springs are for. Try using 1 strap, if you hit an obstacle it may bust the strap before you damage something else. Let us know how it works.

    i just push it in the street and mnDOT takes it for me.

    If I had an accident because of you pushing snow into a public way.... I'd own your house! That is a really stupid thing to do.

    and illegal in most states. witch means if you do something illegal and somebody gets heart YOU are responsible.
  13. elite1msmith

    elite1msmith 2000 Club Member
    from chicago
    Messages: 2,762

    has anyone ever shoveled snow.... had the shovle catch a crack in the pavment...and the handle hits you right in the >>>>>>> ouch

    ur 4mph walking speed did that......now take into account a 20 mph driving speed, and the momentum of a truck and plow...

    yep on the steering wheel
  14. kmclawn

    kmclawn Junior Member
    Messages: 26

    Do not put snow onto a public road! If somebody were to get injured by hitting your snowpile, you will be sued. With the economy where it is at you will start seeing more lawsuits for anything.
  15. apachemh60

    apachemh60 Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    yea i sort of figured i would get that sort of response from you guys i do know how dangerous piling snow in the street is but i guess you would have to see my street, its a cul-de-sac and i push it up against the pile that mnDOT makes and when they come around they push it even more, i dont just leave a ten foot pile across a busy neighborhood street. the strap i use is a 1000lb breaking strenght which is actually very wimpy. i figured they would break.

    and for all the opther insults, its not my profession, hobby, or even choice to plow my driveway. im 18 and my dad bought me the truck and the plow in hopes of not having to shovel our long driveway anymore. i am probably the most undereducated about plowing many of you have ever talked to.

    that is why i am here to ask teh question, the strap is off and i will probably end up welding some replacement northern tool springs on teh plow frame beside the stock ones to strengthen it up.

    i appreciate the good advice from most of you.
  16. Krieger91

    Krieger91 Senior Member
    Messages: 353

    I would advise against welding trip springs on. Most plows, to my knowledge, have them bolt on so you can adjust them accordingly. Welding takes that away. Bad idea.

    Also, bad idea to use strap. Even a weak strap will put alot more abuse onto your truck and blade than the trip springs.

    Also, bad idea to pile snow in the street. Even as you are claiming to do it, I would be there's a law somewhere against that,. and f anything happened because of it, I do mean anything, it'd be your responsibility and liability.
  17. topdj

    topdj Senior Member
    Messages: 396

    since I'm the only one in this thread that just traded my model 700 I will say just tighten the springs all the way up it will be a lot safer then straps, I had my all the way and its was just fine.
    And now that I see your pushing th snow in the same pile as the town I guess I might do the same if needed. It just sounded like you left it in the road which doesn't fly in anytown USA
  18. artic429

    artic429 Senior Member
    Messages: 166

    tighten your springs up on your plow man. dont do any mods on it if you dont have to. With some more use of your plow there will be many more things to weld on so dont get trigger happy with the stinger yet. And the "insult" part,.... jeepers... you asked a question, you got some pretty straight forward answers. Got the point across didnt it?
  19. MLLC

    MLLC Member
    from MA
    Messages: 49

    i'm gonna ask this question, your dad bought a truck and plow for a 150ft driveway? i can shovel that in less than half an hour, or snow blow in 15 mins. my driveway is hundreds upon hundreds of feet, and the only reason i bought a plow is to do my grandparents driveway and farm.
  20. zztarg

    zztarg Member
    Messages: 68

    I agree with the plow angle - that needs to be checked.

    Also, what's the driveway surface?