I run a 2001 c3500. I pull bobcat s185, and much more. it's a dump bed that I've had over three ton of rock in the bed (no more suspension, but motor had plenty of power ) Its the gas 6.0, I did not wan't to spend the extra 6800 on the diesel. I have just recently installed a supercharger, to help me with gas mileage, which it definately has. And the power boost is awesome 410hp. I'll line up against a diesel anyday

p.s. It sounds cool too

 

Too bad you have to have the supercharger to try and run with a diesel.

 

Don't most "newer" diesel's have a turbo charger???

 

Stock. No supercharger

 

I wonder how much power a diesel woud have with out those turbos???

 

Plenty

 

No doubt, Bet it is all low end.... no real HP with out turbo...

 

mine didnt have any forced induction at all and I pulled a dodge ram with a v-10 that had a blower on it backwards not once, not twice, but 3 times he had 4x4 and I had a 2wd dually, lol

heres my truck idling shortly before I pulled hm across the lot:

dont need any turbo or blower to get "r" done! pumpkin:

 

All that low end torque gets you nothing in the snow but spinning tires.....

 

No doubt, Bet it is all low end.... no real HP with out turbo...

LOL almost 450 hp@ 2800 and 700+ ft lbs @ 1400

 

Any more questions?

 

exactly... show me a tire that will keep traction in the snow with all that torque going to them... Ya gotta have a lot of weight to keep it.....

 

All that low end torque gets you nothing in the snow but spinning tires.....

the same could also be said for people that plow with the transfer case in low range

 

I am not debating the power of diesel... If I had a lot a wieght to pull I would say diesel hands down...., but pushing snow requires a balance of power and traction.....

 

I am not debating the power of diesel... If I had a lot a wieght to pull I would say diesel hands down...., but pushing snow requires a balance of power and traction.....

do you drive with the throttle mashed to the floorboard all the time, atleast I dont.... the same motor making 500ft lbs @ full throttle will make less if there is less fuel/throttle and <100ft lbs at idle or less \

more fuel/air= power
less fuel/air= less power!

 

No I do not drive with my foot to the floor board, but if you what a diesel that has 700 ft/lbs of torque at 1400 rpms, Idle is usually around 500 so do the math, it still has a lot of torque that the tires will have to deal with in the snow...

It is a matter of opinion... you are going to think diesels are better, I say it depends on what equipment you have, and in some cases I bet a gas would be a better choice..

 

It's funny that I've plowed with my diesel for 4 years and never had a problem spinning in the snow.
I've pushed piles twice as big as a gasser does.
Nothing against gassers.

 

just because a motor "can" make 700 ft lbs @ 1400 rpm dosent mean that it will it depends on the amount of throttle you are giving it

 

There are two many variables to just say "I push piles twice as big as a gasser" mean any thing. To be accurate, you would have to have the same trucks, same weight(front and rear axle weight), same tires, even the same driver....

 

big nate:

exactly... I do not want to get into this either.... so I am done!!

 

Power aside, one thing for sure is that you'll get more done in the diesel per tank of fuel than a gas truck. Geez I remeber the days when the diesel engine as an option for GM offered a whooping 150 HP! But that same 6.2 could push all night on less than one tank.

 

''''WHEW""" this thread has snowballed Just want to clarify, I don't have a diesel, but would've liked to bought one. At the time, It would've cost me way too much to upgrade to one. I've been extremely happy with mine and glad I made the decision. I had to have the supercharger cause I sold my corvette due to a new family member (needed to have something high performance). Anyways, Either one plows snow just fine payup

P.s. Diesel fuel is more expensive than unleaded where I'm at 2.08gallon. whats up with that

 

I had the same dilemma when I bought my crew cab HD. I know that putting a plow on a diesel crew cab can be done, but I like to be in control of my warranty so I went with a plow prepped GMC HD Crew with the 6.0 gas. Had the same set up but with an ext cab short bed and liked it, so this one will be fine....

 

The price of diesel always goes up durastically in the winter as it follows the price of heating oil people still use in their homes....

ie: cold weather, more heating oil reduces supply raises cost and diesel follows...

 

I traded my diesel for a BIG block gas years ago. Gas is cheaper then diesel now, the truck doesn't see more then 10K miles a year, so why pay the rip off prices the Big 3 are charging for the diesel option. A big Block gas IS a great plow truck, and a lot cleaner.

Bill