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Contract Assistance

Discussion in 'Business Fundamentals' started by SidelinePropMgr, Oct 21, 2003.

  1. SidelinePropMgr

    SidelinePropMgr Junior Member
    Messages: 16

    I am looking to create a contract for my plowing. Is there anyone out there that would share theirs with me. I come to the forum because you guys and gals have more experience than me. This is my 2nd year in the business and I am trying to get things in place to make it a full time endeavor. I am in Dayton, Ohio. If it must be faxed, my fax # is 937-275-4776.

    Thanks In Advance,

  2. CPSS

    CPSS Senior Member
    Messages: 334

    Just read down a little further, someone else asked the same question.
  3. Time Cutters

    Time Cutters Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    I can understand

    I have been searching this site and many others for weeks and I can not find out any information on contracts. It seems as though they are some deep secret that you have to make mistakes and figure out all by yourself. I don't really understand it because I have been looking at this site for a while and most people are from very different places. I guess they never got any help from anyone when they started and now want to treat others the same way! If I do find anything I will let you know!

    :)realmad: And Please PLEASE do not reply to this message with search the top or go to SIMA--- Thanks because I already did that!)

    Sorry but I will let you know
  4. Adams plowing

    Adams plowing Senior Member
    Messages: 195

    heres one of the threads on contracts that has some info

    One thing on contracts many people have spent alot of time and money to make their contracts such as lawyer fees and such so you cant fault them for not wanting to give out their contracts to other people and the fact that one should write their own contract tailored to their specific company not just rip off a contract that someone else made especially because some things in other peoples contracts might not apply to what your doing. also with each state having different laws some contractual items may not be legal in your specific state. but asfar as people not offering help on contracts there are quite a few members on this site willing to help with them i did a search for contracts and got 688 threads on this sight that has infor about contracts includeing the one i listed above. once you write your contract feel free to post it on here and other members im sure will be willing to critique your contract and offer insite into what you may want to add or remove. and time cutters not to sound rude but if you actually did some reading of the threads that come up on a search of the word contracts you would find pretty much all the info you need to write your own contract. you just gotta do the homework and read through them and pull out what would apply to your business and compile them together to make a contract. that fits your needs. and the members area of sima has contract info too.
  5. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

    Re: I can understand

    Thanks for letting us know.
  6. digger242j

    digger242j Senior Member
    Messages: 672

    And as often as somebody begins a thread asking for somebody to send them a copy of their contract someday soon it'll be 1688 threads.

    I agree with what Adams plowing has said about why people might be reluctant to share their contracts, but in many of the threads individual members have offered to share copies of theirs privately.

    There's *no* lack of willingness to help here at PlowSite. Ask a unique question (or even phrase a common question in a unique way), and the membership will be falling all over each other trying to share their wisdom, but ask the same question that's been asked four times already this week and you're likely to find the reply is "do a search".

    Fill your *first* ever post with exclamation points and the "real mad" smilie and somebody might get a bad first impression....

    BTW, Welcome to PlowSite!!

  7. SnoJob67

    SnoJob67 Senior Member
    Messages: 384

    If the sample contracts that SIMA has would not help you, I am afraid you will be hard pressed to find anyone here that can. It sounds to me as if you want it handed to you on a silver platter and don't want to do the leg work. If you want it handed to you on a silver platter, it will cost you $170 to become a member of SIMA. If you never got another bit of information from being a SIMA member, that in itself would be well worth the price.

    Sorry, but WE will let YOU know, Dianna
  8. micah79

    micah79 Senior Member
    Messages: 303

    Time Cutters

    If you are gonna talk like that, then why are you even on this site? I have gone at great lengths to help people as much as they have helped me. There are dozens of members who regularly help as much as they can. I , however , am not just going to send my contract to anybody who creates an account on here and just wants to take a copy and run with it. This is a community of snow plowing enthusiasts who try to help each other to the best of their abilities. It is NOT a place to just demand a copy of a contract. I welcome new members and try to help them if I can, but this is going too far. Don't just come on here as a newby and start demanding stuff, and then complain about our replies.
  9. Time Cutters

    Time Cutters Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    First off I never set out to make enemies. I was just trying to help the guy out and make him feel a little less frustrated. I never asked for any one to hand me anything. I have worked hard and done the research. Type in CONTRACTS under search and you get stuff but no real answers. Many of them have nothing to do with contracts. Besides I was responding to a question not asking ANYONE for help or I would have wrote my own question. I just think that when someone gets up the courage to ask for help and the only response they get is "search" or go to SIMA it is pretty sad. It takes some people alot of time to ask someone else and you guys respond with mean and rude comments.

    This is my first time actually writing anything because I thought it was suppose to be a site that was welcoming and used to make connections and relations in the business. It took me along time to make that response or even become a member because I thought people would be mean and I guess I was right! I do not feel welcome and wish I had not responded because the way it seems you only want certain responses by certain people. I just wanted to become a part of this site and be helpful.

  10. micah79

    micah79 Senior Member
    Messages: 303

    I have given copies of my contract to several new people. I just don't like the way you get on here acting like this.:realmad:
  11. Time Cutters

    Time Cutters Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    I Just felt like everyone was being a little mean. I apologize for :realmad: .I just felt bad for th guy

    Sorry Dianna
  12. micah79

    micah79 Senior Member
    Messages: 303

    Yeah but you have to understand where we are coming from. Its hard, because people will just get on here and want a simple solution to success. Then a lot of them take the knowledge and run. I'm not saying that you or SidelinePropMgr are doing that, its just that we get a post like his a lot, and many members have talked a lot about contracts on here before. I have been invloved with a few threads on contracts that I think have a lot of useful info in them.
  13. Time Cutters

    Time Cutters Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    You all have a lot of useful information on here. It is a great site.Sorry I was a little angry.
  14. JCurtis

    JCurtis Banned
    Messages: 862

    Dianna, first of all welcome to plowsite.

    Second of all, you must understand that what may be legally ok in Connecticut may not be legally binding in Minnesota and vice a versa.

    Most of the people here on plowsite will help you if you ask, they may just not do it publicly! Why you ask... well as friendly and helpful as most of us are, we are also prone to shady dealings buy people who are not so helpful and are just looking for any ege they can get to steal business from someone else.

    That is one reason most people will suggest a search or to join Sima. That is also a reason why you never see exact pricing mentioned on line.

    If someone asks how much to charge for a parking lot of a certain size, how do I know its not someone from my service area trying to undercut me?

    I hope you can understand where most of us are coming from. We don't mean to be rude or unwilling to help, but we all must be concerned about the possibility of someone being somewhat shady ( not that you are, I would never suggest that) but it has happened to some of us before.

    Once you get a bit more familar with the personalities you will see that we are not really all that bad. There was one guy on here that came across really abrasive, almost to the point of him being hated by everyone, but then someone from here met him in person and found out that he was a really nice guy . So Dianna, don't let the bravado and testosterone turn you off to plowsite.

    :waving: :D
  15. digger242j

    digger242j Senior Member
    Messages: 672

    Don't let any of this get under your skin, Dianna. Some of our most esteemed members have made their debut by saying something and then getting absolutely *BLASTED* by everybody.
    I remember a kid who came on and said right up front that he knew *everything* there was to know about plowing. Can't remember his name though.... Anybody remember who that was? ;)
  16. BRL

    BRL PlowSite.com - Veteran
    Messages: 1,277

    Man I'm starting to feel bad for him almost, since you guys can't seem to forget he said that.


    First off, Welcome to Plowsite Dianna!

    The search feature here turns up every thread with the word searched for. So unfortunately, while searching "contract" comes up with 600+ threads, it does not bring up only the threads where contract "samples" or contract "clauses" or other more specific items were discussed in detail. During that search the member who posted the original question will find several threads where people have posted where others can obtain free sample contracts from other people who do not mind sharing a "sample contract" with everyone. Here's an even different reason for not sharing a contract (I'm from NJ so unfortunately our litigious society here makes us have to think in this manner), if I share my contract with someone & they run into problems with it, I expose myself to a potential lawsuit when someone in NY can't collect their payments, or some other major problem because they used the terms in my contract. Many of us don't want to have to worry about that kind of stuff.

    Our suggestions to search are by no means an attempt to be rude or mean at all. Many of us have been here for a time & we know the wealth of information that is already here. Our suggestions to new members to search is as much of an invitation to explore and discover what they have really found in this site, as it is an effort to help with their specific question (because we know that the answer is already here, & I hate typing so I often won't retype information that I've already posted here, and others are the same as well). We would hate for the new person posting to miss a great thread with perfect answers to their question simply because I, or others are too lazy to retype our opinions on the matter. Spending a few minutes in a search might give someone 10 new items to help with their business that they might not have known about, while answering their original question.

    Now, the real answer to the original question is "consult your attorney & have them write the contract for you", for the reasons mentioned earlier in this thread. But instead of writing that rude & maybe mean response, we suggest the member search for the info that we know that is already here that helps with the particular question. :waving:
  17. Snoworks

    Snoworks Senior Member
    Messages: 466

    Well put BRL:

    For motivated start ups who would like to see a sample contract - i would be more than happy to help. I have faxed more than my fair share of contracts to people intersted in expanding, enhancing their contracts. In return, I enjoy feedback from them, on my contract. That is what this site is all about!

    It is just seems to be a little redundant when people ask to see someones contract without any specific questions! Just send me the contract! I spent days on this fourm reading and learning, when I first found it!

    Chuck B.
  18. Time Cutters

    Time Cutters Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    I never asked to see anyones contract. I just felt bad for the guy.
    I totally understand why you would not want to put it out there.

    Thanks Dianna
  19. Snoworks

    Snoworks Senior Member
    Messages: 466

    Dianna - I was not directing the response to you!

    It was meant to be a general statement for all plowsite members. A great example of what I was getting at is about a half page down in this forum. You will know what I am talking about when you find it!

    Chuck B.
  20. Time Cutters

    Time Cutters Junior Member
    Messages: 22

    Thanks chuck B