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Collecting unemployment while on seasonal contract

Discussion in 'Business Fundamentals' started by R1lukasz, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. R1lukasz

    R1lukasz Member
    from Chicago
    Messages: 43

    Hello ,not shure where or who to ask but can I collect unemployment when my summer job is over ? ,It's seasonal snow removal contract with owner of property It will be in 5 installment payments each month and it's 1099 , so since I will get a check once a month when I call to certify do I report for one week earnings and for the rest 3 weeks 0 income ? Please advice
  2. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,174

    Interesting question. I would ask IDES
  3. JustJeff

    JustJeff 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,478

    Not "shure".
  4. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    It's called double dipping or fraud....

    So you have income from your " legitimate" snow plowing business
    Thus a 1099, the tax man will figure it out.
    Then you will have to repay the unemployment $$$ you received.

    Why doesn't your business pay you every 2 weeks?

    Ps did you get fired laid off,
    Ladif off with a recall notice?

    Naw, your still working at your own job....
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2015
  5. grandview

    grandview PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 14,609

    What you need to do is,have the property owner make a donation in the amount of your contract to you alderman, then he passes it along to you minus a donation fee back to him,and he lists it under misc. campaign supplies
  6. LapeerLandscape

    LapeerLandscape 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,247

    A couple questions first,
    You still have the same account you did last year, if so great.
    The company you work for in the summer is different and that's who you are collecting unemployment from?
    You don't have a company name or DBA that the snow removal check is written to, its going directly to you? If so it might benefit you to have a DBA or corporation made up, have the snow removal check written to the company and you could pay some bills (phone, truck ins, truck payment, gas, as much as you can) from that account. I think you still have to take a payroll check from that but it can be minimal.
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2015
  7. maxwellp

    maxwellp PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,123

    The real question is why should you? Can you not find something else to do? You know snow is seasonal and so is grass and many other things. Planning is your friend. So far I have not worked in Oct for any $$ don't need to and don't plan on it. :)
  8. R1lukasz

    R1lukasz Member
    from Chicago
    Messages: 43

    Im seasonal worker from may till december after that company I work puts me on unemployment till another summer season starts . So I was just asking if I can collect since I will be doing snow . I will be getting checks as bda
  9. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    No One puts you on unemployment.
    They lay you off.
    You sigen up for it.
    Sure go sige up.....
    Answer all questions truthfully.

    you have a job you are earring a living why do the tax payers ( we all subsidize unemployment)
    Have to support you?

    You do business as....
    You file a 1099
    That is taxable income,
    Sure go file, and declare all moneys earned in each week,
    Becuse the business declared all expenses.....

    Next, call your accountant and a lawyer, becuse your going to be audited.
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2015
  10. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    Here is a idea.
    Go find more work?

    Why not?

    Go make a living.
    Make something of yourself...

    Why be a leach, when you cam be a fish in the pond?
    Isn't it the to grow up , move out of the basement?
    all jmo......
  11. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,778

    What was your Unemployment Offices answer....?
    Don't take the advice/ judgement of strangers....ask the right people.
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    And the guys advice above is no different...just another " stranger"
    You see, the kid,,,, asked strangers.

    I have collected unemployment,
    I know the ropes.
    Call back notice, etc etc....
    And as somene who has layed off & fired people...
    I have never put someone on uneloyment, nether has any other employer.
    It's a choice, you make.

    Bottom line, go get more work, go make a living....
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2015
  13. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    I'm sure this rant will get me time in the dog house.

    But how can any business owner be sympathetic to the op?
    Yet he got laid off from his seasonal job,
    Doenst sound like its the first time.
    His employment status is a choice.

    Gee I'd like to do as littel as I can so I can leach off of my employer and
    Tax payer.
    While running a business.

    Buck up.
    Go to work.
    Grow your business, work, full your plate.

    what happens when your old and mom and pops die?
    And they evict you from the basement.
    Will unemployment be enough?

    Really dude, you have a business and you want unemployment too?
  14. Mr.Markus

    Mr.Markus PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,778

    I'm sure the rest of the country felt the same way when you were on unemployment...
  15. JMHConstruction

    JMHConstruction PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,722

    SnoFarmer, you have helped me in the past on here and I'm sure in the future, so I don't want to start any s**t with you. With that said, every business pays unemployment regardless of who claims or who doesn't. If he can do it and needs it, and OP, ask your unemployment guy FIRST, I don't see why not claim.

    Now depending on your contract amount, there may be no reason to claim. Unemployment is put in place to help you pay bills, not just free $$$. I've had years that I wish I could claim unemployment. I remember about 5 years ago we got a total of 4"! I went out one time.

    If you NEED it, ask someone who is paid to know the answer, not plowsite.
  16. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    Yea, it was strange, we were afscme, yet our employer was trying union busting
    During contract negations.
    Laid us off, called in scabs.

    Stood on a picket line.
    Took part on the negation team.


    The op has a job,
    A job, I mean a business in a industry as we know , if you show just a littel hussel,
    It will , can offer a living,
    Now is the time for him to be out gathering customers, not filling out applications for work,He has that.
    It's growing his business.

    The op just needs a kick in the xyz..

    a Q. When does the entitlement stop?
  17. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    JMHConstruction, were good,
    Give your $.02

    Yea, sometimes it could be the only option for most.
    But, come on,
    In have a contract for $x but it only pays latter in the year, soooo,in the mean time I'll collect uniemployment.

    Doesn't that sound? Strange to you?
    I use to have to Waite 90 days from the month in did the work to when I got paid.
    I guess I shuld have filed.:waving:

    And, this is just a littel debating,:drinkup:
  18. 1olddogtwo

    1olddogtwo PlowSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,174

    See above ^^^^
  19. jhall22guitar

    jhall22guitar PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,056

    I don't think you can college unemployment if you have a DBA. Technically you own a business, so unless you close the business each week, then restart, have contracts resigned (since they would be void each time you close) you have a job. Thats what Ive always gone by, I have my own DBA, i don't currently use it, but its a company, I own, whether its making money or not.
  20. Randall Ave

    Randall Ave PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,577

    You have to report any income, if the state finds you cheated, fines, penalties, maybe the word, audit. Is it really worth it.