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Check engine light question

Discussion in 'Ram Trucks' started by ktfbgb, Dec 27, 2016.

  1. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    P1009-POWER STEERING CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1012-MPA CIRCUIT LOW
    P1013-MPA CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1014-FUEL PUMP CIRCUIT LOW
    P1015-FUEL PUMP CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1016-CHARGE AIR TEMPERATURE CIRCUIT LOW
    P1017-CHARGE AIR TEMPERATURE CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1018-SERIAL DATA CIRCUIT
    P1019-POWER LATCH NOT SET
    P1021-ENGINE FAILED TO START DUE TO MECHANICAL, FUEL OR IGNITION CONDITIONS
    P1022-STARTER RELAY CIRCUIT LOW
    P1024-ECU START CIRCUIT LOW
    P1025-WOT CIRCUIT LOW
    P1026-WOT CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1027-ECU SEES WIDE OPEN THROTTLE
    P1028-ECU DOES NOT SEE WIDE OPEN THROTTLE
    P1029-ISA CLOSED THROTTLE CIRCUIT LOW
    P1030-ISA CLOSED THROTTLE CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1031-ECU SEES CLOSED THROTTLE
    P1032-ECU DOES NOT SEES CLOSED THROTTLE
    P1033..36-ISA CIRCUIT
    NTAKE
    P1037-TP SENSOR CIRCUIT READS LOW
    P1038-PARK/NEUTRAL LINE HIGH
    P1039- PARK/NEUTRAL LINE LOW
    P1040-LATCHED B+ LINE LOW
    P1041-LATCHED B+ LINE HIGH
    P1042-NO LATCHED B+ ½ VOLT DROP
    P1043-SHIFT LAMP CIRCUIT GROUNDED
    P1044-D2-1 CIRCUIT LOW (A/T)
    P1044-UPSHIFT LAMP CIRCUIT (M/T)
    P1044-SHIFT LAMP CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1045-SHIFT LAMP CIRCUIT OPEN
    P1047-WRONG ECU
    P1048-M/T VEHICLE CONFIGURATION
    P1049-A/T VEHICLE CONFIGURATION
    P1050-IDLE RPM LOW
    P1051-IDLE RPM HIGH
    P1052-MAP SENSOR OUT OF LIMITS
    P1053-CHANGE IN MAP READING OUT OF LIMITS
    P1054-COOLANT SENSOR & 5V SUPPLY FOR TP SENSOR /
    MAP CIRCUIT LOW
    P1055-COOLANT SENSOR CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1065-INACTIVE COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR
    P1059-A/C REQUEST CIRCUIT LOW
    P1060-A/C REQUEST CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1061-A/C SELECT CIRCUIT LOW
    P1062-A/C SELECT CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1063-A/C CLUTCH CIRCUIT LOW
    P1064-A/C CLUTCH CIRCUIT HIGH & POWER STEERING INPUT
    P1065-RICH OXYGEN SENSOR INPUT
    P1066-LEAN OXYGEN SENSOR INPUT
    P1067-LATCH RELAY CIRCUIT LOW
    P1068-LATCH RELAY CIRCUIT HIGH
    P1069-NO TACH
    P1074-ECU DOES NOT SEE SPEED SENSOR
    P1106-MAP SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT HIGH VOLTAGE
    P1107-MAP SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT LOW VOLTAGE
    P1110-DECREASED ENGINE PERFORMANCE DUE TO HIGH
    INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE
    P1111-IAT SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT HIGH VOLTAGE
    P1111-IAT SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT LOW VOLTAGE
    P1114-ECT SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT LOW VOLTAGE
    P1115-ECT SENSOR CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT HIGH VOLTAGE
    P1121-TPS CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT HIGH VOLTAGE
    P1122-TPS CIRCUIT INTERMITTENT HIGH VOLTAGE
    P1125-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SYSTEM
    P1133-HO2S INSUFFICIENT SWITCHING BANK 1 SENSOR 1
    P1134-HO2S INSUFFICIENT TRANSITION TIME RATIO BANK 1 SENSOR 1
    P1153-HO2S INSUFFICIENT SWITCHING BANK 2 SENSOR 1
    P1154-HO2S INSUFFICIENT TRANSITION TIME RATIO BANK 2 SENSOR 1
    P1180-DECREASED ENGINE PERFORMANCE DUE TO HIGH
    INJECTION PUMP FUEL TEMPERATURE
    P1191-INTAKE AIR DUCT LEAK
    P1192-INLET AIR TEMP SENSOR VOLTAGE LOW
    P1193-INLET AIR TEMP SENSOR VOLTAGE HIGH
    P1194-O2 HEATER PERFORMANCE
    P1195-O2 SENSOR 1/1 SLOW DURING CATALYST MONITOR
    P1196-O2 SENSOR 2/1 SLOW DURING CATALYST MONITOR
    P1197- O2 SENSOR 1/2 SLOW DURING CATALYST MONITOR
    P1198-RADIATOR TEMPERATURE SENSOR VOLTS TOO HIGH
    P1198-RADIATOR TEMPERATURE SENSOR VOLTS TOO LOW
    P1214-INJECTION PUMP TIMING OFFSET
    P1216-FUEL SOLENOID RESPONSE TIME TOO SHORT
    P1217-FUEL SOLENOID RESPONSE TIME TOO LONG
    P1218-INJECTION PUMP CALIBRATION CIRCUIT
    P1271-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1-2
    CORRELATION
    P1272- ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 2-3
    CORRELATION
    N FRO
     
  2. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    P1273- ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1-3
    CORRELATION
    P1275-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1 CIRCUIT
    P1277-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1 LOW
    VOLTAGE
    P1278-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1 HIGH
    VOLTAGE
    P1280-ACCELRATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 2 CIRCUIT
    P1281-ENGINE IS COLD TOO LONG
    P1282-FUEL PUMP/SYSTEM RELAY CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1282-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 2 LOW
    VOLTAGE
    P1283-IDLE SELECT SIGNAL INVALID
    P1283-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 2 HIGH
    VOLTAGE
    P1284-FUEL INJECTION PUMP BATTERY VOLTAGE OUT OF
    RANGE
    P1285-FUEL INJECTION PUMP CONTROLLER ALWAYS ON
    P1285-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 3 CIRCUIT
    P1286-ACCELERATOR POSITION SENSOR SUPPLY VOLTAGE
    TOO HIGH
    P1287-FUEL INJECTION PUMP CONTROL SUPPLY VOLTAGE
    LOW
    P1287-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 3 LOW
    VOLTAGE
    P1288-INTAKE MANIFOLD SHORT RUNNER SOLENOID
    CIRCUIT
    P1288-ACCELERATOR PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 3 LOW
    VOLTAGE
    P1289-MANIFOLD TUNE VALVE SOLENOID CIRCUIT
    P1290-CNG FUEL SYSTEM PRESSURE TOO HIGH
    P1291-NO TEMP RISE SEEN FROM INTAKE HEATERS
    P1292-CNG PRESSURE SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P1293-CNG PRESSURE SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P1294-TARGET IDLE NOT REACHED
    P1295-NO 5-VOLTS TO THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR
    P1296-NO 5-VOLTS TO MAP SENSOR
    P1297-NO CHANGE IN MAP FROM START TO RUN
    P1298-LEAN OPERATION AT WIDE OPEN THROTTLE
    P1299-VACUUM LEAK FOUND (IAC FULLY SEATED)
    P1336-CRANKSHAFT POSITION SYSTEM VARIATION NOT LEARNED
    P1345-CRANKSHAFT POSITION/CAMSHAFT POSITION CORRELATION
    P1351-IGNITION CONTROL CIRCUIT HIGH VOLTAGE
    P1361-IGNITION CONTROL CIRCUIT LOW VOLTAGE
    P1380-ELECTRONIC BRAKE CONTROL ROUGH ROAD DATA
    UNUSABLE
    P1381-MISFIRE DETECTED-NO ELECTRONIC BRAKE
    CONTROL DATA
    P1388-AUTO SHUTDOWN RELAY CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1389-NO ASD RELAY OUTPUT VOLTAGE AT PCM
    P1390-TIMING BELT SKIPPED 1 TOOTH OR MORE
    P1391-INTERMITTENT LOSS OF CMP OR CKP
    P1398-MIS-FIRE ADAPTIVE NUMERATOR AT LIMIT
    P1399-WAIT TO START LAMP CIRCUIT
    P1403-NO 5 VOLTS TO EGR SENSOR
    P1404-EGR VALVE CLOSED PINTLE POSITION
    P1406-EGR VALVE POSITION
    P1409-EGR VALVE SYSTEM LEAK
    P1415-AIR SYSTEM BANK 1
    P1416-AIR SYSTEM BANK 1
    P1441-EVAP EMISSION FLOW DURING NON-PURGE
    P1475-AUXILIARY 5 VOLT SUPPLY VOLTAGE HIGH
    P1476-TOO LITTLE SECONDARY AIR
    P1477-TOO MUCH SECONDARY AIR
    P1478-BATTERY TEMP SENSOR VOLTS OUT OF LIMITS
    P1479-TRANSMISSION FAN RELAY CIRCUIT
     
  3. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    P1480-PCV SOLENOID CIRCUIT
    P1481-EATX MISFIRE RPM SIGNAL OUT OF RANGE
    P1482-CATALYST TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT SHORTED LOW
    P1483-CATALYST TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT SHORTED HIGH
    P1484-CATALYTIC CONVERTER OVERHEAT DETECTION
    P1485-AIR INJECTION SOLENOID CIRCUIT
    P1486-EVAP LEAK MONITOR PINCHED HOSE FOUND
    P1487-HIGH SPEED RADIATION FAN CTRL RELAY CIRCUIT
    P1488-AUXILIARY 5 VOLT SUPPLY OUTPUT TOO LOW
    P1489-HIGH SPEED FAN CTRL RELAY CIRCUIT
    P1490-LOW SPEED FAN CTRL RELAY CIRCUIT
    P1491-RADIATOR FAN CONTROL RELAY CIRCUIT
    P1492-AMBIENT/BATTERY TEMPERATURE SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P1493-AMBIENT/BATTERY TEMPERATURE SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P1494-LEAK DETECTION PUMP SWITCH OR MECHANICAL FAULT
    P1495-LEAK DETECTION PUMP SOLENOID CIRCUIT
    P1496-5 VOLT SUPPLY, OUTPUT TOO LOW
    P1498-HIGH SPEED RADIATOR FAN GROUND DTRL RELAY CIRCUIT
    P1508-IAC SYSTEM LOW RPM
    P1509-IAC SYSTEM HIGH RPM
    P1594-CHARGING SYSTEM VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P1595-SPEED CONTROL SOLENOID CIRCUIT
    P1596-SPEED CONTROL SWITCH ALWAYS HIGH
    P1597-SPEED CONTROL SWITCH ALWAYS LOW
    P1598-A/C PRESSURE SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P1599-A/C PRESSURE SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P1602-PCM NOT PROGRAMMED
    P1621-PCM MEMORY PERFORMANCE OR WRITE
    P1626-VEHICLE THEFT SYSTEM CONTROL LOSS OF DATA
    P1627-A/D PERFORMANCE
    P1630-VEHICLE THEFT SYSTEM PCM IN LEARNING MODE
    P1631-VEHICLE THEFT SYSTEM IMPROPER PASSWORD
    P1635-5 VOLT REFERENCE (A) CIRCUIT
    P1639-5 VOLT REFERENCE (B) CIRCUIT
    P1641-MIL CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1643-WAIT TO START LAMP CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1646-5 VOLT REFERENCE (C) CIRCUIT
    P1652-J1850 SHORT TO GROUND
    P1653-EGR VENT SOLENOID CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1654-SERVICE THROTTLE SOON LAMP CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1655-EGR SOLENOID CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1656-WASTEGATE SOLENOID CONTROL CIRCUIT
    P1680-CLUTCH RELEASED SWITCH CIRCUIT
    P1681-NO I/P CLUSTER CCD/J1850 MESSAGES RECEIVED
    P1682-CHARGING SYSTEM VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P1683-SPEED CONTROL POWER RELAY
    P1683-S/C 12V DRIVER CKT
    P1684-BATTERY DISCONNECTED IN THE LAST 50 STARTS
    P1685-SKIM INVALID KEY
    P1686-NO SKIM BUS MESSAGES RECEIVED
    P1687-NO CLUSTER BUS MESSAGE
    P1688-INTERNAL FUEL INJECTION PUMP CONTROLLER FAILURE
    P1689-NO COMM BETWEEN ECM & INJECTION PUMP MODULE
    P1690-CKP SENSOR DOES NOT AGREE WITH ECM CKP SENSOR
    P1691-FUEL SYSTEM ESS RPM ERROR
    P1692-DTC SET IN ECM
    P1693-DTC CLEARED IN COMPANION JTEC MODULE
    P1694-NO BUS MESSAGES RECEIVED FROM ECM MODULE
    P1695-NO CCD/J1850 MESSAGE FROM BODY CONTROL MODULE
    P1696-PCM FAILURE EEPROM WRITE DENIED
    P1697-EMR (SRI) MILEAGE NOT STORED
    P1698-NO CCD/J1850 MESSAGE FROM TCM/PCM
    P1719-SKIP SHIFT SOLENOID CIRCUIT
    P1740-TCC OR O/D SOLENOID PERFORMANCE
    P1756-GOV PRESS NOT EQUAL TO TARGET @ NOT 12-20 PSI
    P1757-GOV PRESS ABOVE 3 PSI IN GEAR WITH 0 MPH
    P1762-GOV PRESS SENSOR OFFSET VOLTS TOO LOW OR HIGH
    P1763-GOV PRESS SENSOR VOLTS TOO HIGH
    P1764-GOV PRESS SENSOR VOLTS TOO LOW
    P1765-TRANS 12V SUPPLY RELAY CTRL CIRCUIT
    P1899-P/N SWITCH STUCK IN PARK OR IN GEAR
    P2121-PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1 CONFORMANCE ERROR
    P2122-PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1 VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P2123-PEDAL POSITION SENSOR 1 VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P2127-PEDAL POSITION VALIDATION SWITCH 2 LOW
    P2128-PEDAL POSITION VALIDATION SWITCH 2 LOW
    P2146-FUEL INJECTOR GROUP 1 SUPPLY VOLTAGE CIRCUIT
    P2147-FUEL INJECTOR GROUP 1 SUPPLY VOLTAGE LOW
    P2148-FUEL INJECTOR GROUP 1 SUPPLY VOLTAGE HIGH
    P2149-FUEL INJECTOR GROUP 2 SUPPLY VOLTAGE CIRCUIT
    P2150-FUEL INJECTOR GROUP 2 SUPPLY VOLTAGE LOW
    P2151-FUEL INJECTOR GROUP 2 SUPPLY VOLTAGE HIGH
    P2266-WATER IN FUEL (WIF) SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P2269-WATER IN FUEL (WIF)
    P2502-CHARGING SYSTEM ERROR
    P2503-CHARGING SYSTEM OUTPUT LOW
    P2504-CHARGING SYSTEM OUTPUT HIGH
    P2509-ECM/PCM POWER INPUT SIGNAL INTERMITTENT
    P2607-LOW VOLTAGE AT THE #2 INTAKE AIR HEATER RELAY
    P2608-HIGH VOLTAGE AT THE #2 INTAKE AIR HEATER RELAY
    P2609-NO VOLTAGE DROP SEEn from air intake heater
     
  4. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    ha i left off the beginning,
    ha
    one more page of codes.

    This is for pre 2010 trucks The codes will be the same for the newer trucks but this list won't have anything for DEF issues.

    P0016–CRANKSHAFT / CAMSHAFT TIMING MISALIGNMENT
    P0030-1/1 02 SENSOR HEATER RELAY MALFUNCTION
    P0036-1/1 02 SENSOR HEATER RELAY MALFUNCTION
    P0071-AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE SENSOR PERFORMANCE
    P0072-AMBIENT AIR TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT LOW
    P0088-FUEL RAIL PRESSURE SIGNAL IS ABOVE MAX LIMIT
    P0101-MAF SENSOR PERFORMANCE
    P0102-MAF SENSOR LOW FREQUENCY
    P0103-MAF SENSOR HIGH FREQUENCY
    P0106-BAROMETRIC PRESSURE OUT OF RANGE
    P0107-MAP SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P0108–MAP SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P0111-INTAKE AIR TEMP PERFORMANCE
    P0112-INTAKE AIR TEMP SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P0113-INTAKE AIR TEMP SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P0116–ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR CIRCUIT
    PERFORMANCE
    P0117-ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE (ECT) SENSOR
    VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P0118-ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE (ECT) SENSOR
    VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P0121-TP SENSOR VOLTAGE DOES NOT AGREE WITH MAP
    P0122-THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P0123-THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P0125-INSUFFICIENT COOLANT TEMP FOR CLOSED-LOOP
    FUEL CONTROL
    P0128-THERMOSTAT RATIONALITY
    P0130-1/1 02 SENSOR HEATER RELAY MALFUNCTION
    P0131-O2 SENSOR 1/1 CIRCUIT VOLTAGE TOO LOW
    P0132-O2 SENSOR 1/1 CIRCUIT VOLTAGE TOO HIGH
    P0133-O2 SENSOR 1/1 SLOW RESPONSE
    P0134-02 SENDOR 1/1 STAYS AT CENTER
    P0135-O2 SENSOR 1/1 HEATER PERFORMANCE
    P0136-O2 SENSOR 1/2 HEATER CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION
    P0137-O2 SENSOR 1/2 CIRCUIT LOW
    P0138-O2 SENSOR 1/2 CIRCUIT HIGH
    P0139-O2 SENSOR 1/2 SLOW RESPONSE
    P0140-02 SENSOR 1/2 STAYS AT CENTER
    P0141-02 SENSOR 1/2 RELAY
    P0143-02 SENSOR 1/3 SHORTED TO GROUND
    P0144-02 SENSOR 1/3 SHORTED TO VOLTAGE
    P0145-02 SENSOR 1/3 SLOW RESPONSE
     
  5. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    The round hits the target the same out of my $600 shooter as it does out of your $2,000 shooter.
     
  6. ktfbgb

    ktfbgb 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,565

    Thanks for code list Sno.

    Ok will do. I'm heading out for a couple hours of work before lunchtime. After that I'll try to get some more detailed info, I'll hook up the scanner and take a pic, etc.
     
  7. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,797

    Sno forgot the most common Dodge code...

    POJ123 - Need a bigger hammer. :laugh:
     
  8. kimber750

    kimber750 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,681

    I think the code is POS123
     
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  9. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,797

    POJ must be a Ford code then??? :nod::rolleyes:
     
  10. kimber750

    kimber750 PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,681

    Ford doesn't need a code for BFH, it is well known that is how you fix everything on a Ford.
     
  11. ktfbgb

    ktfbgb 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,565

    Ok here's the update. Went by Auto Zone and had them scan the code for me. It's a P20EE SCR NOx catalyst efficiency below threshold. There is a TSB posted for this from last year. I doubt that the PCM needs a new flash as it was reflashed just a couple months ago when the new turbo went on it so I doubt it's out of date already. I need to crawl under the truck and check that none of the DEF lines are kinked, and that none of the sensor wiring got torn up in the storm. If it's not one of those things then I can't fix it and it has to go to the shop it looks like from the TSB. If no kinks or damaged hoses, or wiring, then they test the DEF fluid in the tank. If that's ok, which I'm sure it is, I use the Blue DEF and check the dates on the box for the newest stuff, then they do a flow test on the DEF injector nozzle. If that passes then they put a whole new SCR catalyst on :dizzy:. I know Sno, all the more reason to do a DPF delete lol. Beat ya to itThumbs Up
     
  12. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    Deleting took a bit of homework, before I pulled the trigger.

    Some trucks seem to work out well and the owners do nothing to them but fuel and oil(s).
    While others are plagued with issues.

    I dindnt delete to increase the hp of fueling etc etc, I deleted so the truck would perform as advertised.

    This for me is towing my TT up narow steep forest service roads in the mountains.
    Lo range and 2nd. It wouldn't regen, so it eventually goes into limp mode.
    So the syestem had to go. ( pre def) (pre stationary regen)
     
  13. ktfbgb

    ktfbgb 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,565

    Gotcha. My only hesitation with the delete is I still have 58,000 miles of warranty left. Since I have had quite a few warranty issues so far, like replacing the turbo, I'm not sure I want to void the warranty. Now if I only had 10k of warranty left or if I had zero problems up till now with the truck I might be quicker to pull the trigger. We don't have emissions testing here so that doesn't matter. Did you just do the "California" delete, seems like that is kinda a standard term for deletes, where you run the program and just take off the DPF and add straight pipe? Or did you do the full delete where you replaced the EGR with a crossover pipe plus the other stuff?
     
  14. ktfbgb

    ktfbgb 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,565

    I checked under the truck. No DEF leaks, no kinked hoses, wiring harnesses look fine, no apparent exhaust leaks. So I guess another trip to the stealer is in order. I'm worried that they are gonna try and say I had bad DEF in the system which would make it non warranty to fix. So, I guess I'll have to convince them that I need to be there to see the test strip, and look through the refractometer. Or if they use one of the digital fluid testers then should I tell them I want to see them calibrate it first? Just seen posts about dealers trying to pull this so they don't have to cover it under warranty.
     
  15. SnoFarmer

    SnoFarmer PlowSite Fanatic
    from N,E. MN
    Messages: 9,883

    I understand thw warranty concerns, diesel pArts can be expensive.

    I read the moss act a few times. Moss ferguson act?

    Then I went with simulators, I don't think they will work well for the def trucks.
    They are resistors that plug in to the sensors in the exhaust.
    They bacicaly tell the syestem it's to hot, and thus stops the regen from happing.
    And will throw a soft code for over temp of catalyst ....
    Deleted the EGR and lived with the cel,( covered with windo film)
    If there is a real issue you will see the lighting bolt or limp mode.
    I scan every oil change just to see if any new soft codes show up.

    The dpf pressure diff sensor can be vented to atmosphere.

    This way, I didn't change any of the stock programming .
    So I just voided the emission warentry & not the power train .
    The local dealers that I go to know and don't care about the sims.

    That's what I did

    If you have to go with a EFI programming then you will void the power train warranty.

    Ps new turbo at 89k ,from Auto zone...

    It wasn't to bad , I did it myself.
    , hint, to get on the back inner nut,
    Just grind down the box end of your snap-on wrench untill it fits...
    (Then put on some heavy gloves it's on tight so that skinney wrench wount dig in as mulch.
     
  16. ktfbgb

    ktfbgb 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,565

    Ok thanks for the info. Obviously I will need to do some more research before deciding. I do believe that since my truck has SCR with DEF system that you have to use a programmer, remove the DPF and replace with straight pipe, and then either unplug the EGR valve, or replace EGR with crossover pipe. When looking at the delete kits online there is a difference between deleting the old non DEF systems and the DEF systems. If that is the case, which I read somewhere, either in owners manual, or Cummins site, that if you tamper with the emissions then like you said it voids power train warranty. Since I plow with it, and then pull a tool trailer every day it's not snowing, I think I want to keep the warranty so I don't have to worry about paying for a new tranny, or something big like that. Then once warranty is over go ahead and do it.
     
  17. Andy1981

    Andy1981 Junior Member
    Messages: 2

    If you delete and use efi live with trans tuning and run a mild 30 or 60 hp tune you more than likely will not have any problems using your truck as it was designed to do. People start having problems when they drive there truck like its a hot rod on a 100 hp and higher tune. I've been deleted and on a 100 hp tune for 20,000 miles and I drive it normal and everything is good . I also did this understanding the risks I was taking and figuring my warranty was useless. If they are going to replace your scr and dpf I would do that then delete and save all the parts you take off for when ever you decide to sell or trade the truck. There is a tremendous amount of useful info on deleting over on the cummins forum
     
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  18. ktfbgb

    ktfbgb 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,565

    Hey fellas. Just an update to my situation. Took it into the dealer finally today for them to check it out. They are sadly getting to know me better down there, and understand that I'm not just a random idiot. When I called to schedule the appointment I let them know that I checked all the wiring and hoses per the TSB for that MIL light. I also reminded them that it was recently in and the PCM had a current flash done at that time. I also indicated that I didn't think it was bad DEF fluid because I always check for the newest box, and that my DEF guage is indicating that the injector is working because I'm still going through DEF at the normal rate. So that left the most likely scenario of replacing the SCR catalyst.

    When I showed up today the greeter guy started checking me in. I started explaining the situation to him while he pulled the codes. I asked him if they stocked the SCR catalyst component and he said unfortunately no so if was that they would need to order it. Bummer but ok I figured as much. Had the shuttle take me home. Before I got in the front door the shop manager was calling. Answered the phone expecting something bad. He said we ran the code and it's still showing the P20EE. When you called to schedule the appointment and gave us the rundown we decided that you were probably correct in the info you gave us so we went ahead and ordered the catalyst on Monday for you anticipating that would be the fix. The tech is installing it right now and we will have it back to you in a few hours!

    I think that's some pretty good customer service right there especially after the problems I've had with them in the past. I'm glad that I kept my cool the last time and didt burn any bridges with them.

    I also talked to them about their thoughts on doing the delete and the warranty on the rest of the truck. They said as long as any warranty work needing to be done can't be easily correlated to deleting the emissions then they don't care. They aren't going through the truck to look for mods so as long as the part under warranty isn't some how directly connected to the deleted emissions, and caused an obvious failure because of it, they could care less and they understand the need to have a reliable truck. So may take a little bit to get the cash, but that's next on the list Thumbs Up
     
  19. Philbilly2

    Philbilly2 PlowSite Veteran
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    I would get that in ink.... :rolleyes:
     
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  20. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    That would be a weird tattoo to have.
     
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