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Can I plow with a 1997 F250 Ex Cab?

f2501960

Junior Member
Location
New Jersey
I have a 1997 F250 HD Ex Cab 4X4 (Old Body Style). No plow manufactures will sell me a plow becouse my Front GAWR is 3,850. Will I do damage to the truck if I put one on anyway? If so what can be done to fix this problem?

I would have never though I I would not be able to plow with this truck!

Please help.

Thanks in advance.
 
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Pelican

2000 Club Member
If they're telling you this, you must have the diesel, I've heard of this problem before.

I personally wouldn't be afraid to put a plow on that truck, even if it exceeds the rated axle capacity. You'll probably want to add Timbren load boosters to the front to keep your tires from wearing on the inside edge, but your truck should handle the plow OK.

I ran my '97 F-350 overweight for 6 years with no ill effects.
 

Hoopsfan

Junior Member
Location
Michigan
I agree Pelican. I've talked to several guys who put plows on trucks that exceeded the rated axle weight and didn't have any problems.

The problem I'm having is that I need an F350 Crew Cab and would like the PSD, but the Western dealer in my area will not install it because I would exceed the axle weight. I'm sure liability has something to do with it. He will sell me the plow, but I have to install it myself. According to Ford, if I do this, I void my warranty! This is the dilemma I face. I don't have the figures for the engine weights, but I cannot believe the PSD weighs that much more than the V10.
 

Pelican

2000 Club Member
Hoopsfan, I'd look around for a dealer who'll overlook your plow, they're out there. My dealer lets me do just about what I want with my trucks, and still honors the Ford warranty. You can't get greedy though, if you overload the truck, you can't expect them to replace a broken spring, or things along that line. If the truck has malfunctioned of its own accord, my dealer will fix it.

F2501960's warranty has been long expired, so this isn't an issue with his truck. If your plow dealer won't install, buy it outright and install it yourself, they aren't that hard to do. If you think that is beyond your skills, put out a call for help here, chances are someone in your area can assist.
 
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Hoopsfan

Junior Member
Location
Michigan
Yeah Pelican, I thought about visiting another dealer. Problem is, I can walk to nearest dealer, the next closest dealer is 40 miles from my house.

I'll take your advice and go see if they'll overlook the plow.

Thanks
 
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f2501960

Junior Member
Location
New Jersey
Thanks!!

Thanks for all the help guys! I think I can handle the mounting myself I was just courious to see if it had any ill effects. It's not a diesel, it's got the 5.8L (351). I love it. I told told my wife when I go to put me and my guns in it and bury the whole thing.
Thanks again.
P.S. Pelican, the God, Guns and Guts is on the mark.

Regards,
F2501950 or Browningman
 

GreginAlaska

Junior Member
Location
Alaska
We have a 94 F350 Crewcab with the turbo-diesel that we put a Sno-way Lobo V plow on and plowed for 4 years with. Didn't cause any problems with the truck. Did get rid of the Sno-Way and went Fischer though. Now we have a 2001 F350 PSD with the 9.5 Fisher V - put another leaf under the front-end and we put about 3K pounds of sand in the back...hope it holds up

;)
 

Brickman

Senior Member
Location
south east WY
Greg I wouldn't be too worried. After all that is the truck of Champions.

If you have too much trouble with the springs giving out you might try the air bag route. A bunch of the car haulers around here put them on their trucks. They love em. I am putting them on mine.

www.macsspring.com is the cheapest place I have found them.
 
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Dockboy

Guest
Originally posted by Hoopsfan

The problem I'm having is that I need an F350 Crew Cab and would like the PSD, but the Western dealer in my area will not install it because I would exceed the axle weight. I'm sure liability has something to do with it. He will sell me the plow, but I have to install it myself. According to Ford, if I do this, I void my warranty! This is the dilemma I face. I don't have the figures for the engine weights, but I cannot believe the PSD weighs that much more than the V10.
Hoopsfan,

I had the same problem with my local Fisher dealer. I wanted them to install a 8.5 EZV, and no matter what I said, he wouldn't.:realmad:

Here is the deal.

If you install a plow on a SD that the Plow Prep package is not avail. on, you will technically have voided the warranty. Unless you do what I did, which was to talk to my dealer about what I was doing. He agreed to honor my warranty even if I installed a plow(I have bought 4 trucks from him).

Second, all 250's and 350's have the same front axle. It is rated for 5200 lbs. The limiting factor between the different models are the springs. SD's with the Plow Prep come with "X" code front springs. This also happens to be the stock springs on a 450 and 550. They are rated at 6000 lb(remember, you still have only a 5200 lb axle). So, Install some X springs.;)

I went to the local Western Dealer and they told me the same thing, no plow. I told them I had upgraded the front springs. They asked, "Are they rated for at least 5200 lbs.". I said "Yes".

A day later, I had a Dealer installed 8.5 MVP on my truck:drinkup:

By the way, when set up to plow, my truck wieghs in around 9100 lbs.

Greg
 
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Dockboy

Guest
Originally posted by Dockboy


Second, all 250's and 350's have the same front axle. It is rated for 5200 lbs. The limiting factor between the different models are the springs.
I know. I thought that is what i said:confused: :D

Greg
 

flakesmeangreen

Senior Member
Location
Lords Valley, PA
I know this post is a little old but I thought I'd post anyway.

I have the same truck, same engine and same front axle. I got the same "you can't put a plow on that truck". I was VERY disappointed to hear that. Found one place, a reputable one, that said he'd do it but wouldn't recommend it if there were multiple drivers. Whatever that means exactly. I said put it on; it's a western 8' pro plow. I haven't had any problems with it yet; it was installed in 2000. The only thing that's wrong with it is the HUGE turning radius doing residential.
 

drobson

Senior Member
Location
Woburn, MA
I've got a 1999 F350 SD with a Front Axle rated at 4500, everything I've read says it needs to be at least 4900. My Ford dealer (the one I just bought the truck from) tells me that it will be fine with the 4500 axle, and that because my factory warranty is up anyway (74K miles on the truck) it won't make any difference. I'm worried that the weight of the plow may damage the front end, maybe not right away, but if the axle is not made for the plow it could do major long term damage.

Anyway, I want to put an 8' fisher on it and so far it doesn't look like it will be a problem, but in the back of my mind I am still worried about the long term damage.
 
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