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Bulk Salt Storage on Well Water Supplied Property

Discussion in 'Ice Management' started by ChicagoSnow, Feb 17, 2009.

  1. ChicagoSnow

    ChicagoSnow Senior Member
    Messages: 231


    Just wondering if anyone has any insight on the construction techniques, precautions, short or long term risk ,etc. when storing bulk salt on land that has a underground well for it's water supply.

    Thanks again,

  2. shovelracer

    shovelracer Senior Member
    Messages: 525

    Good question. I have wondered this myself. It is done quite frequently out here in the country, but they are almost always on asphalt, wrapped in barriers, and covered.
  3. dmontgomery

    dmontgomery PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,238

    I doubt there is really any true issues......it only take 3 feet of dirt / sand to filter water and make it clean......that being said.....take what ever precautions deemed as necessary
  4. CGM Inc.

    CGM Inc. PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 3,598

    I might have the same scenario soon :)
  5. HinikerPrototyp

    HinikerPrototyp Member
    Messages: 88

    Two cents

    Mostly what i have read in the past say it must be covered and in some sort of bunker with a hard floor like a asphalt or concrete floor.Most county's are making it mandatory and a Law that it be covered or to even be indoors.In the last link i posted it states that the epa doesnt regulate road salt use but im sure in time it will.I'm sure it will effect your water in time,just like fuel storage tanks.The EPA is starting to crack down on tanks without spill containment basins around them.Heres some cool links that explain where some laws are and what salt does. , The one from Maine is pretty interesting. Best to cover.http://www.maine.gov/dep/blwq/docstand/sandsalt/whattoknow.htm
  6. ChicagoSnow

    ChicagoSnow Senior Member
    Messages: 231

    Ok, I will take a look.

    I wonder if a Phase 1 environmental test will pick up previous areas where salt was stored?

    What do you think?

    By the way, is salt considered a soil contaminant to warrant extreme soil remediation if discovered in the soil?

  7. snowandgo

    snowandgo Senior Member
    Messages: 143

    Just keep it up high, so surface water is not running through the pile, then keep it covered.

    You ever see the piles at the barge terminals? Very often on gravel, not pavement.

    You will lose some into the ground if it's not seperated by pavement or other good barrier.

    Septic systems must be at least 75 feet from a well in IL for what that's worth.
  8. RLM

    RLM PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,270

    Check out the salt institute they have storage plans/suggestions. Also check with local DEC:dizzy:. Good luck
  9. Longae29

    Longae29 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,953

    Concrete or asphalt pad.....with concrete or asphalt curbing around it. they have asphalt curbs around the piles at the port of milwaukee.
  10. Craaaig

    Craaaig Senior Member
    Messages: 156

    I would put it on an impermeable pad whether it be concrete or asphalt, make sure no surface water will flow into/ through the pile, and there are a huge number of ways to cover the pile. You could go to the salt institute website and look at that their storage suggestions. JMO
  11. GSJ

    GSJ Junior Member
    from W. MI
    Messages: 17

    Depending on how much & how long salt is allowed to wash onto the soil it can penetrate much deeper than 3' into the soil. Your best bet would be to have enough room to completely cover the pile at all times and ideally have enough room to load under the covered area.
  12. ChicagoSnow

    ChicagoSnow Senior Member
    Messages: 231

    Thanks to everyone for the feedback!

    To summarize: As long as the bulk salt in on a non-permeable pad, is covered, has no contact with water at or above grade, has adequate surrounds to keep any salt spillage from reaching the ground than all should be fine in regard to well water.

    This is what I thought, but just trying to learn from others experiences in regard to this circumstance.

    Anyone have any idea on how or who to hire to analyze an existing well's water quality to determine it's current state before storing bulk salt (as specified above) on or near? I want to cover all the bases(try to anyway) before stepping forward.


  13. HVAC Guy

    HVAC Guy Member
    from Chicago
    Messages: 48

    Thats A NICE Looking Truck!
  14. HinikerPrototyp

    HinikerPrototyp Member
    Messages: 88

    You should beable to find a water test kit at sears or even call a well company,for them to test your water.
  15. ColumbiaLand

    ColumbiaLand Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    Just Build A Simple Salt Shed, This Small One Can Hold Up To 25 Ton If You Stack It With A Small Loader, Cost About $1500 to Build Concrete, Blocks And Cover All. You Can Get All Of These Products Locally To Build It.

    Theres Pictures Here Of It. Good Luck

  16. T-MAN

    T-MAN PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,363

    Joe, The county health dept. can test water for you. They should have sample containers you can pickup. I dont remember what they charge, but it was not a whole heck of a lot of money.
  17. stonewellmark

    stonewellmark Member
    Messages: 41

    I would store it on blacktop if possible and covered. if any leeching happens after that I guess you will use a little less water softener salt.! Just do your best to keep any runoff from entering water supply ie. streams, rivers, and through ground permiation. Great question though, Im glad to see people being concerned about runoff!!