Boss LDR quick coupler adapter results

Discussion in 'Boss Plows Discussion' started by Broncslefty7, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. Broncslefty7

    Broncslefty7 2000 Club Member
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    Purchased this year, and is paired with a case 621G. First storm of the year, 5” of snow, 6 hours in, the thing tore itself apart. I fully expected if anything where to break it would have been the welds, not the steel crossbeam. Needless to say, I am extremely disappointed! I paid around 500 and change for the adapter, 700 for the JRB hooks, and a couple hundred to a local welder. Waste of $$$

    The parking lot was paved two years ago and there are no islands.....

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  2. Green mentorship

    Green mentorship Member
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    Look at how thin that metal is. Can't say it self destructing is surprising. Another example of end users beta testing for Toro.
     
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  3. TJS

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    That thing is like a pendulum. Needs another rung of cross tubes and redesigned plates to utilize it. Also needs supports from the top area of the blue quick plate to where those two large bolts are (another plate or something.) I kinda got to also put the "bad" on the welder, he should have made a support for the top of the blue quick plate. Plus laying tube flat like that has less strength then if it were 90 degrees the other way.
     
  4. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    This is a Boss product?

    If so, it's the same idiot that designed the EXT. Hate to say it, but I could have told you it was going to fail. Where the hooks are welded to the tube need to be supported...they're basically hanging in the breeze. And the tube is too thin.

    Not that MetalPless was any better, but it took longer than 6 hours to break apart. And it was easier to fix.
     
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    Broncslefty7

    Broncslefty7 2000 Club Member
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    Oh the weld guy, he’s a beast

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  6. Defcon 5

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    Beast???....Not much penetration there
     
  7. OP
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    Broncslefty7

    Broncslefty7 2000 Club Member
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    The welds held... the boss cross beam did not. None of the welds are broken
     
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    Broncslefty7

    Broncslefty7 2000 Club Member
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    I’m no welder but they look good to me
     
  9. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    But when you weld to tin...the tin breaks.

    Had the same thing on my 14' Daniels. Good ole whacked out Greg used 1/4" or 3/8" tube for the push tube. I believe it was 12" square. But 14' of blade hanging oof it. Folded\cracked in half. Ebling replaced it with 1/2" and never had a problem again.
     
  10. Aerospace Eng

    Aerospace Eng PlowSite.com Addict
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    I disagree on the tube being stronger n the other orientation for a fore-aft push. The moment of inertia for a fore/aft push goes like the vertical depth*horizontal depth^3.

    It almost looks like it was designed to be pinned onto the bucket somehow using the holes in the tubes outboard of the fore/aft plates.

    Regardless, the setup should be designed so that the loads from the coupler are taken to the pusher as directly as possible. I would put a thin triangular gusset from the coupler to the vertical plate, and then put strap on the end of the gusset toward the loader, making an I-beam out of the setup. I'm not sure if the push tubes are supposed to be removable from the plates, or if the fittings between the tubes with the large bolts are there just for assembly convenience.
     
  11. fireside

    fireside PlowSite.com Addict
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    That’s the boss design not the welder!!! The blue hook parts was welded to the boss factory supplied adapter plate. Also the top bolts can’t be welded to as the adaptor floats. The whole adaptor floats allowing the box to rise up and down. To put it bucket mount forks on you unbolt all the big bolt and remove slide plates than adaptor
     
  12. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    Yes and no, the welder should have seen this coming. The support is just not there for this to work. Add to that the thin tube wall and there is no way it was going to last.
     
  13. Aerospace Eng

    Aerospace Eng PlowSite.com Addict
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    Something like this.... LDR coupler_gusset.jpeg
     
  14. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    And on the insides of the hooks.
     
  15. TJS

    TJS PlowSite.com Addict
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    Is this thing on upside down?
    Also yes the blue guessets, but also extend plates where the top two bolts are down to the plate going around the tubes while still allowing to slide in.
     
  16. Ajlawn1

    Ajlawn1 PlowSite Fanatic
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    I'm with gussets on the outside and inside and hell maybe even another thicker tube on the top running from each slide hitch plate then welded to your blue hitch...

    Heck their SK10 uses at least 1/4" on there slide hitches, what is this a LDR 14?

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  17. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    Kinda wondered why the JRB part was welded so "high" on the hitch. Might have got 8 hours out of it if it was centered...

    Nice that it has fork pockets so when it tears apart you can still transport it.
     
  18. Ajlawn1

    Ajlawn1 PlowSite Fanatic
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    Oh I thought those were so you can plow with your forklift...
     
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  19. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes PlowSite Fanatic
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    That's what you get for thinking.

    So not only is the Boss pusher inferior as it doesn't scrape as good as others, the quick coupler is garbage.

    Where oh where is Stanley the dirt moron when you need him?
     
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    Broncslefty7

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    We installed it per boss’s specs. If they wanted more gussets we certainly would have added more....