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Big snow bid help

Discussion in 'Bidding & Estimating' started by grassguy123, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. grassguy123

    grassguy123 Junior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 28

    I am working on a lawn landscape and snow bid for a local university, and i have never priced out a job this big.

    Durring snow storms this job will be managed by myself and my brother and we will sub out all the work.
    They have salt piles and skid steers to load the salt.

    Parking lot=35 acres
    Sidewalks=90,000 sq ft

    Parking lot plowing=?
    Parking lot salting=?
    Sidewalk plowing=?
    Sidewalk salting=?

    What do i pay the sbus=

    I am new to this type of snow plowing, thanks in advance for your help.
  2. ColumbiaLand

    ColumbiaLand Senior Member
    Messages: 790

    what are the specs of the rfp?
  3. grassguy123

    grassguy123 Junior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 28

    plow every 2in and salt as needed
  4. grassguy123

    grassguy123 Junior Member
    from NJ
    Messages: 28

    Unfortunately due to the fact that i have a big landscaping company in order to get the landscape bid i need to provide the snow services. id rather not but thats just a part of life. sometimes you have to do what you dont want to do. I will be subbing everything out so i wont be buying any new equipment and i promise i wont bring the cost of services down for you
  5. cleansweep007

    cleansweep007 Senior Member
    Messages: 119

    Do a search on here to find out specs and possibly help with prices. We can't just give you all the info you are going to need to figure out your hourly charges for your men and equipment.
  6. emerson

    emerson Junior Member
    Messages: 12

    Don't you have some equipment that could be used for moving snow that sits during the winter? Are all your employees summer only? The biggest hurdle to a snow moving business is the knowledge and organization to run a business. You already have that together. With a contract, anyone can get equipment. You already have employee contacts. If you use subs, they will be working for less than you would, and so will provide an inferior service in the long run. That reduced service will cost you job performance and good will from your customer. Also, any sub that starts to make decent money with you, will soon want to cut you out of the food chain. If they don't understand business, they will be another lowballer with enough money to compete with you. In the long run their business will fail, but you will lose money competing with them. You should get equipment and employees together that will work almost full time through the winter, and only hire subs for above average snows, to save your ass. The more money you channel to startout companies, the more uneducated business competitors you will have. A big contract like that is something to build a business around. Don't give any possible competitors a leg up. Most small companies would KILL for volume work like that.

    Last edited: Jan 4, 2010
  7. Brant'sLawnCare

    Brant'sLawnCare PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,756

    Well, for something like that, I would probably price it out hourly per piece of equipment. That's the fairest way to do it, and you cover yourself. If they don't like that idea, then you need to figure out how long it's gonna take you. As far as salting, charge them per pound applied, plus an hourly spreader fee. That way, it's fair to both sides no matter how much you salt. If you do "spot salting" then you charge them for your time and what you use.

    Actually I didn't see that they will provide the salt. In that case, just give them an hourly rate for your truck and spreader. That should be an easy way to make money.
  8. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,276

    Grassguy, where in NJ are you? If you're in the right place I'd bid the snow for you as a sub...........At 35 acres of parking he's talking about alot more than a truck and spreader..........A large location like that here in NJ will likely not entertain an hourly bid.
  9. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    youll probaly be takin
    6 hrs with 2 trucks, and use 3-5 tons of salt
  10. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

  11. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Either do what Emerson said or just sub out the whole winter portion to one larger contractor.
  12. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    you forgot to say i hit it right on the nail
  13. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    That's because you didn't.
  14. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    was it a screw?
  15. cretebaby

    cretebaby PlowSite Veteran
    Messages: 4,162

    Sure :dizzy:
  16. Matson Snow

    Matson Snow PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,985

    Your still a Knucklehead...:dizzy:
  17. deicepro

    deicepro PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,124

    :laughing: Take another guess
  18. iceyman

    iceyman 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,925

    1 truck 5 hours?:D
  19. ajslands

    ajslands 2000 Club Member
    Messages: 2,033

    matson i did'nt know your name was richard

    and how much salt would you use ???
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2010
  20. jomama45

    jomama45 PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,190

    I can tell you for a fact that his name isn't "richard". :rolleyes:

    I can't imagine what that post looked like before you edited it. :dizzy: