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Bid on Condo-Village

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself to the Community' started by HotMountain, Nov 20, 2007.

  1. HotMountain

    HotMountain Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Hi there,
    I'm just starting my business this year and already have two residential accounts. Now I am bidding on a 30 Unit Condo-Village. No sidewalks, just driveway and walkway to the frontdoor. The want a bid on a 1/2" and a 1" policy. For a 3" contract people are willing to pay around $200 (Canadian).
    So I figured those numbers running the show with a snowblower (one man)
    -1/2": $300 per Unit per month = $9000 (total)
    -1": $250 per Unit per month = $7500 (total)

    Now I was a bit shocked by the total. Should I consider a discount because it's all together?

  2. heather lawn spray

    heather lawn spray PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,206

    How much area is involved?
    30 units can take 2 hours by truck/atv/skid steer $200-$300 per pass. Any main road or do they face the city street?
  3. Duracutter

    Duracutter Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 200

    Wow, you make it sound so complicated. We take care of 18 large condo sites and all are on monthly price except for 2 that are by the hour. Those condos, we do the sidewalks/driveways on a trace and the parking lots by the hour with bobcats, bladed track machines on various triggers.

    It sounds like you might be chewing off a bit more than you can handle and yes, your price will prevent you from getting any work as I don't work too far from you guys.

    Usually it's hard for a guy to price condos the first year. It takes years to be bang on and survive any mistakes you can and will make. Be careful, you could wind up eating lots of crow as they are not so forgiving when you can't perform your contract.

    Give them a price by the hour, cause it's late to book a contract, like very late, most condos at this point have signed, so give them a price of $65/hr for your blower and you're sure to make money. If you need a shoveler to help, and if it snows heavy you will, and charge 49/hr for that guy.

    Pm me if you have any questions.

  4. HotMountain

    HotMountain Junior Member
    Messages: 7

    Ok, today I had another chat with them and they want one visit per day for 1/2" or more on the ground and $300 per month per Unit is far too much for them

    Each unit has a garage and a little walkway (20 feet). Bid is just for that. No sidewalks on site and road is not my business.

    I have to other residential accounts and they pay $200 per month for driveway and 50 feet sidewalk. Only thing is, they run on a 3" trigger.

    The Condos had a company which charged $ 8,000 for the whole winter (Nov - March). But they did a crappy job So everyone in the village wants another guy.

    The average snowfall is around 52 inches per winter.

    Thanks for any comment.
  5. heather lawn spray

    heather lawn spray PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,206

    Just for measurement sake how many cars could be parked on each individual driveway? Are there any common parking areas in the complex? Is salting an issue in Edmonton is is it just too cold to worry about it?
    As DURACUTTER says everybody else has already signed for the season. Hourly may be everybody's best bet now.
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2007
  6. Mick

    Mick PlowSite.com Veteran
    from Maine
    Messages: 5,546

  7. StratfordPusher

    StratfordPusher Senior Member
    Messages: 960

    Per Unit

  8. Duracutter

    Duracutter Senior Member
    from Canada
    Messages: 200

  9. Kramer

    Kramer Senior Member
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  10. QuadPlower

    QuadPlower PlowSite.com Addict
    Messages: 1,056

    Last guy got $8,000 for 30 condo for 5 months correct. That is $53 per month per condo or $266 for the season. My guess is they are looking for something in that range. I understand that the last guy was no good, but money talks.

    Hotmountain, you said "For a 3" contract people are willing to pay around $200 (Canadian)" Is that for the season or for the month?

    How many minutes is it going to take to clear a single condo?
  11. ALarsh

    ALarsh Senior Member
    Messages: 203

    This isn't that diffcuilt. Estimate how long it will take you to clear the complex on a 5" snowfall. Break it up into sections if you have to (that should take 10 min, that 4 min, that over there 15 min, etc) You should get about $150 per hour on a contract like that for a 8' straight blade. Do the math, look at the numbers. Do they look right?

    W/O pics, I would say that $260 per condo for a season is pretty good. Most resi contracts are going for $220-$280 per yr @ 2" min.
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2007